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Vajacial - is it only me, or ...?

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Grannyknot Tue 16-Apr-13 19:04:37

www.stylist.co.uk/people/lucy-mangan/why-are-we-so-mean-to-our-vaginas-read-lucy-mangans-latest-stylist-coloumn#image-rotator-1 was reading about this on my way home on the train. Suffice to say it involves papaya cleanser, moisturising masks and a pair of tweezers. Interesting that the columnist in part blames the porn industry and its demand for a specific 'look' - and (I've learnt from earlier threads) for some people watching porn is normal. Of course for some this would be the ultimate beauty and rejuvenation treatment I guess. As the columnist says "What the hell is going on?!" Who does this sort of stuff to themselves? It almost feels like a form of self-harm.

Thank God I'm a child of the sixties, I barely had my first "wax" (I don't even think it was called bikini wax back then) when I joined the 'wherever you may be let your hair grow free' brigade and nowadays I'm pleased to have public oops I mean pubic - hair at all.

Ana Mon 22-Apr-13 15:21:36

There's no way I'd let any man that close to my bum! shock

harrigran Mon 22-Apr-13 15:19:27

Keep plucking GrammaK it is less painful if you grab them as they appear. I call the ones at the corner of my mouth pussy whiskers because they are so tough.
The other unmentionable subject, well, they are not doing it for the Doctor or for themselves so it must be for a man. There is not a man walking this earth I would do that for grin

GrammaK Mon 22-Apr-13 13:08:28

It seems to me that this is something my daughter's generation is into much more than ours ever was. I've only been "shaved" twice - once when my daughter was born in 1974 (that was the 'norm' in those days here in the States), and then once about 5 years ago when I decided to try it on myself because my pubs were so thin and silver and very thinned out that I thought I looked "odd". The worst part (both times) was the regrowth period. I don't think I'd ever do it again. I am not married and don't have a significant other at this point in my life, so I really don't see any point in doing it. However, if I did find a partner and our relationship looked to be something that was headed towards a long-term relationship I can't honestly say that I'd be against doing it again, if my mate preferred "hairless". Frankly I thought it did look better that way too. And to be quite honest the thinning and the silvering of my pubs are unsightly to ME! I never was one to have lots of hair in that area to begin with anyway. Growing up I was best friends (still am) with an Italian girl and she had an abundance of 'growth' down there. She ended up going to an electrologist and having the part that was visible when she wore a bathing suit taken off permanently. She also had the hairs on her upper lip and around her mouth and chin area done as well. She loved it and said it was the best money she'd ever spent! Now that I am older (beyond menopause) I have hairs on my upper lip and around the corners of my mouth and on my chin as well, and I'd love to have them removed permanently. They're a real pain to pluck. I do use a shaver type product called Enjoi that pulls the hair down to the root - it works well, but hurts too sad Especially now that at my age (I'm 61) it's very difficult to pluck them out myself. Plus the electrologist is permanent. I just hate having to 'Enjoi' or PLUCK ever week or two! Electrology is not a cheap procedure though here in the States. As years pass I keep wondering if I should just keep plucking away, haha!

Have any of you ever heard of the procedure of "bleaching" that's become quite popular (around the anal area - sorry for such bluntness but I don't know how else to put it). Ladies are actually going in and having this procedure done to lighten the skin around the anus. I know, I know! It sounds very weird to me too, but they're actually doing it here. I don't understand why this has become such an issue. Who's actually LOOKING down there (besides your doctor) anyway, haha! And another thing that seems to becoming popular is something I've just recently read about where they go in and use a solution of some type to "tighten up" a woman's vagina!?! According to this article this was another procedure that's becoming popular with the "younger women/girls". Good grief at the things women are willing to do, is all I can say, UGH!

Any comments would be appreciated (and interesting, I'm sure :-o

Sorry to have this be my very first post on this blog. It's all a bit embarrassing to me, as well sad But interesting, just the same, haha! (sorry, I laugh when I get nervous, hehe).

mrsmopp Sat 20-Apr-13 00:03:16

I have no body hair at all, underarm, legs or anywhere else. I thought it was a normal part of ageing but apparently not, according to this thread.
Wonder what caused mine then. Menopause I presumed.
Not a topic I could raise with my friends, so thanks, Gransnet!

petallus Fri 19-Apr-13 16:20:17

It occurred to me whilst strolling the venerable Waitrose aisles just now that the joke would work better if the pervert had used the 'c' word instead of ass but maybe that was too strong to post on Facebook.

Eloethan Fri 19-Apr-13 15:34:30

petallus That's brilliant!

petallus Fri 19-Apr-13 14:12:45

Just saw this on Facebook and it seemed appropriate to this thread:

A pervert phones a woman and says 'I bet you have a tight ass with no hair' and she says 'yes, I have, he's watching television, who shall I say is calling?'

petallus Fri 19-Apr-13 14:03:00

I wouldn't dream of shaving 'down there'. I don't even shave under the armpits. I do shave my legs up to the knees in the summer though.

I always say I don't believe in catering to male lust grin

Marymore Fri 19-Apr-13 11:40:49

Ha Ha Ha! I didn't know what vajacial was so asked DH if he knew and he said he did (but he got it a bit mixed up, I looked it up) I haven't had a wax in that area ever and am quite sure that it would look horrible if I did. I think anyone who feels they need to go through this torture for somebody else's pleasure (?) needs empowerment lessons (if there is such a thing) Anyway thanks Gransnet for the education, very illuminating

Eloethan Fri 19-Apr-13 08:45:00

A young doctor sewed me up after having my first child. At his side was a senior nurse and the doctor kept checking with her as to whether he was doing it right. Needless to say, the stitches were far too tight and I was in severe discomfort for the whole week I was in hospital and felt too sick to eat properly. When a nurse came to remove them (painfully) before I was discharged she said with incredulity "Who did this?

nonnanna Fri 19-Apr-13 06:27:17

I've only three words to say about this thread - ouch, eeuw (if that's a word but you know what I mean) and hilarious. Only on Gransnet!

Flowerofthewest Thu 18-Apr-13 22:47:06

grinDee

Deedaa Thu 18-Apr-13 20:21:20

I've got a scar from my daughter's birth nanaej which used to split open if sex was too energetic (chance would be a fine thing now) and be sore for a couple of days. When I had my son the doctor was sewing me up and I complemented him on his technique. The midwife said "It's because his hobby is leatherwork" I wasn't sure if that was a good thing or not but I never had any trouble with his scar.

feetlebaum Thu 18-Apr-13 20:13:36

Lullydully "It seems this fashion for shaving and waxing is linked to porn."

It certainly takes the fun out of it...

kerrymallah Thu 18-Apr-13 20:05:20

I cannot understand this interest in pubic hair removal. I've never experienced any problems with mine either personally or from a partner.
I'm certain it is a consequence of the ready availability of porn.

I was an antenatal teacher in the 80s and 90s and we all bemoaned the degrading and disempowering act which still prevailed in some less enlightened birthing establishments of insisting that women were pubic hairless when giving birth. Women and their partners felt very indignant about this practice.
How times change.

celebgran Thu 18-Apr-13 19:58:29

Just read it too!

Mm when did my training we were taught bikini waxes brazilian etc but I hated giving them and do not now!

Personally a sensitive hair removing cream is far kinder if a lady wants feel confident in swimsuit!

Regarding other procedures words fail me!

Totally unecessary! Why on earth would women want to degrade themselves like this?

LullyDully Thu 18-Apr-13 19:11:38

FGM is a vile practice. I once went on a course about it and despite it being illegal there have been no prosecutions.

It seems this fashion for shaving and waxing is linked to porn.

Both demeaning for women.

FlicketyB Thu 18-Apr-13 18:54:43

I have just read the original article and I started to think of the campaign against female circumcision, a barbaric practice forced upon women in some areas of the world.

I suddenly saw the similarities. In both cases women's genitals are being mutilated to please men. I know one is voluntary and one is done under duress, but how soon before a woman has it done to keep her man, as the saying goes. Is that not under duress? How can we take the high moral ground about one set of women being genitally mutilated, while other women are doing it voluntarily?

LullyDully Thu 18-Apr-13 18:37:39

|I just read the article and she is not talking about the pubic triangle!!!!confused Horrible !

Forzanonna Thu 18-Apr-13 18:32:04

used to have a bikini wax - just because I didn't like the "spiders" coming out of cozzie!! Hadn't a clue what a vajacial was - or indeed how to pronounce it - till I read an article in last Sunday's magazine. Now that I know, I'm not rushing anywhere to have it done (and suspect I wouldn't have 20 years ago either) smile

FlicketyB Thu 18-Apr-13 17:47:27

Flowerofthewest Like Ruskin, who it is said, was unable to consummate his marriage after he discovered his wife had body hair. His sheltered upbringing meant he had only seen naked women in pictures, suitable devoid of any visible genitals, let alone pubic hair. She went on to marry Millais and have 8 children.

Personally, I am not in the habit of examining other women's genitals, online or anywhere else, so I have no idea what 'normal' looks like. mine have served me, as they are, quite satisfactorily and without complaint, from them or anybody else for 70 years so I have no plans to find out.

Flowerofthewest Wed 17-Apr-13 22:30:09

I agree FlicketyB that or they are too squeamish about REAL women and body hair. Makes me shudder to think of it. If it's not broke don't fix it I say.

Galen Wed 17-Apr-13 21:11:03

They can be tender and give dyspareunia!

nanaej Wed 17-Apr-13 20:51:57

Deedaa that reminds me of an embarrassing moment... I had a tear repair after DD1 was born. It was quite bad and it was surgery rather than just stitches. Some years later having laser treatment for some pre-cancerous cells the young (male) doctor asked me conversationally...'and does your scar here bother you?' Well I'd never seen it and no-one else had complained!! blush

Deedaa Wed 17-Apr-13 20:42:23

I was always a bit surprised by people who wanted genital surgery, because it had never even crossed my mind to look, let alone compare mine with anyone else's. I think I grew out of that sort of thing by the time I was 6.