Carole Middleton

I like the look of Michael Middleton. He's so quiet and happy to stand back and let the women in his family take centre stage. I can imagine William enjoying a pint and a chat with his father in law.

She does look good. Don't get me wrong. They are all three of them (the Middleton women) nice looking. Carole just looks as if she's been there and did a bit too much of it perhaps.

DH has just said that Carole Middleton looks 'Bloody good for her age' He probably thinks she's 70!

As cabin crew, Carole Middleton will probablly have had years of piling on the slap at 3am and then lazing in the sun by a pool down route before the return flight. My DIL is 44 and mindful of the toll that years of high altitude flying takes on the skin.

Short haul flights are just the opposite.

I did think that Carole's accent was rather affected when speaking to the press about the baby. Perhaps the whole family took elocution lessons when Kate began seeing Will!

Kate, on the other hand, sounds posher than William.

I was talking purely about her looks. I don't know any lottery winners.

Well they are descended from working class in the NE you know. What is the matter with people that they only admire lottery winners not people who work their socks off? A bit rough!!!

To be absolutely honest, I always think Carole looks a bit rough. The dad looks genuinely posh. And nice.

I was born in a council house and left school when I was 16. Through hard work my DH and I ended up with a nice house in what estate agents call a "sought after location". When someone suggested that we were now "middle class" I immediately responded that as we had to work to live that made us working class. Never had time for people who are caught up in what "class" anyone belongs to. That sort of thinking belongs in the past

I don't think they have much choice on the merchandising front. It's a competitive world and they can't let the grass grow whatever people may think about them cashing in.

being advertised on Face Book , new baby range by Middletons,

They haven't let the grass grow then ??

Strike while the iron is hot .

I started life in a house in Southall that we owned. Sadly I don't seem to have progressed quite as far as the Middletons, but you never know

I wasn't talking about the baby I was talking about the way people talk about the Middletons.

Merlot!

Have the Guardian and the Telegraph only just heard?

Fresh on Twitter:
Tomorrows headlines
GUARDIAN: It's a boy!
TELEGRAPH: It's a boy!
DAILYMAIL: Has Kate lost the baby weight yet?

Flick - sorry you simply can't get away with that - this baby only matters because of his antecedents! That's what monarchies are all about and why I am a proud republican and it explains all the anti Carole Middleton 'jokes'

Well, yes, now you mention it, it is odd, since the whole monarchy bit is based on huge class distinctions, isn't it?

FlicketyB Class consciousness in a thread concerning the family of a newborn prince – whatever next?

An awful lot of class consciousness in this thread, what does it matter what one's antecedents are except for historic interest. I can see no more reason for parading one's humble background than boasting of blue blood and aristocratic connections.

Similarly I found the coarse and ugly jokes about Mrs Middleton offensive (not ones made here, but in the public arena but referred to here). She and her husband are a successful business couple whose daughter met and married someone she met at university. Perfectly normal, lots of us have done that. Why do they constantly have to have silly social comparisons made just because their SiL is a prince?. They have made their own lives, judge them on that.

This not over wrapping idea seems to rely on every household being able to afford to keep at least one room in their house at 18 C. In a harsh winter or even on a cold drab summer day that is very expensive. We came home from a short holiday last June to find our living room was just 13C.

That piece of health information should come with alternative advice for those in fuel poverty, poorly insulated and non centrally heated homes.

My mum and MIL both used to talk about how cold their babies got in winter.

hides him from prying eyes galen prior to official photo shoot. But he does look like a white baby. Bang goes the "muddled him up with the Patels baby" news story. shucks. back to everyone excited or cynical bit. as you were.
tegan my friends, both experts in the physics of heat loss, took the "dont over wrap" advice to heart, despite their theoretical knowledge that small things cool down relatively faster etc I popped in when baby was a week old. Cool august evening. Baby in vest and nappy. Blue to knees and elbows. Suggested that maybe another layer and a cuddle were in order

Oh don't say that . I nearly killed my daughter by putting her outside in a pram wrapped up in blankets on a warm day; I knew nothing about babies and just thought they needed to be kept warm. Thankfully the midwife came to visit me and said 'what on earth are you doing?'. I still freak out at the memory. Got a bit blubby again seeing them with the baby.

That baby is too warmly wrapped!