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What happened to English grammar?

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Greatnan Tue 06-Aug-13 07:15:56

Headline in The Daily Mail:
The death of the man who sunk the Belgrano: Falklands Navy hero Sir John 'Sandy' Woodward dies aged 81

Ana Tue 06-Aug-13 16:06:49

Presumably the use of the word 'sunk' is deemed to be wrong....hmm

Anne58 Tue 06-Aug-13 15:32:30

Joined the Navy at the age of 13, worked his way up through the ranks, both subs and ships, sounds pretty "Boys Own" to me, but in the best possible sense.

j08 Tue 06-Aug-13 15:24:48

Don't ask me. I haven't a clue.

Bags Tue 06-Aug-13 14:44:07

Um... terrible admission here... but what's wrong with the headline? I mean, grammatically?

PS are newspaper headlines obliged to be grammatical anyhow? If so, who sez?

KatyK Tue 06-Aug-13 14:31:26

or grin even

KatyK Tue 06-Aug-13 14:31:00

[laugh]

j08 Tue 06-Aug-13 14:30:09

Seriously, am I the only one on here who remembers the Falklands "campaign" as being a terrible shock to the system? We actually sent out a fleet, and soldiers, to war. I don't remember the Korean war.

Not too keen on SW being referred to as a "Boys' Own" hero. tbh.

j08 Tue 06-Aug-13 14:24:53

I don't believe you are ever taken aback Bags. Never!

Stansgran Tue 06-Aug-13 14:15:27

Traditional is what I meant. As for the apostrophe I checked where it went on Wikipedia . Just testing.

Nonu Tue 06-Aug-13 13:53:21

You have . ---Laugh

KatyK Tue 06-Aug-13 13:52:22

Well it was originally called Boy's Own Paper so yes! I am being jocular obviously. I just hope I have got the spelling of jocular right. grin

Stansgran Tue 06-Aug-13 13:43:37

Surely the point is that at least the sub editor could get it right for a hero. Would it matter if it were a trivial subject? In my opinion yes but we have few enough heroes of the tradional Boys Own Paper so they should make an effort. Now pedants should I have an apostrophe?

kittylester Tue 06-Aug-13 13:41:40

But this thread isn't about someone dying, it's about grammar! confused

Bags Tue 06-Aug-13 13:09:43

Indeed. And different people will judge triviality in different ways. If one person has to make allowances for another, that goes the other way too. Nobody's perfect.

j08 Tue 06-Aug-13 13:01:50

There's trivial, and there's trivial.

Bags Tue 06-Aug-13 12:54:53

I'm not sure I could, jings, without a great deal of detective work which I don't want to do, and I'm pretty certain I shouldn't even if I wanted to.

Sorry if my comments bothered you. I wasn't complaining about your flippant remarks. Mostly I find them amusing and can see where you're coming from, even if they take me aback rather.

I'm not complaining. No, I just felt you were one of the last people I'd expect to criticise others for making trivial remarks, or for commenting on trivial things since, from my perspective anyway (which may be completely wrong, I grant you), you do both those things quite often.

So I really did enjoy the irony (as I saw it) this morning smile

j08 Tue 06-Aug-13 11:41:41

Ok! Point me to a serious thread I have trivialized. I'm fed up with these accusations.

#moneywheremouthis

Bags Tue 06-Aug-13 11:38:51

Oh, I did enjoy that, jings! Chuckled my way through some ironing and some vacuuming on the strength of it.Thank you again grin

Bags Tue 06-Aug-13 10:41:45

Thanks for the laugh.

Bags Tue 06-Aug-13 10:41:22

Coming from some who has never hmm trivialised a serious thread, that's priceless, jings! grin

j08 Tue 06-Aug-13 10:37:49

I am just surprised that anyone would bother with anything so trivial when the main subject is what it is. Whatever your feelings about the sinking (is it really something to joke about?), the man was a war hero.

Hence the hashtag.

Bags Tue 06-Aug-13 10:31:10

The pedants' corner of the Chat Forum, ana? There! Sorted grin

kittylester Tue 06-Aug-13 09:42:14

We knew what you meant Elegran smile

Ana Tue 06-Aug-13 09:41:21

Think I thought I was in pedants' corner! wink

KatyK Tue 06-Aug-13 09:41:05

There is a sign outside our local florists 'we cater for funeral's, wedding's
etc'. It is written in chalk and it takes all my willpower not to rub out the apostrophes.