If you think GN can get a little heated.....

Angela Merkel is great!

Welcome, berdie, nice to have you on board. I have many lovely men in my family now - grandsons, grandsons-in-law, son-in-law - they have changed my mind about men! I am afraid many of the men I knew of my generation and older were taciturn, sexist and generally useless, and that includes my father, uncles, brother, husband, brothers-in-law and the husbands of most of my friends. There were honourable exceptions, of course, and I am sure all our GN men are amongst them!
I am not sure that the kind of woman who would rise to the top in politics would necessarily be an improvement on the kind of man who does, although Merkel seems O.K.

berdie, surely you can exempt yourself from your strictures on your fellow men. You are an asset to us on Gransnet.

Nice one berdie

I agree Greatnan, Iv'e been on GN for nearly a week now, and I find myself laughing along with some of the antics of members. I also think that this country should be run by you ladies, because as someone said, a lot of men are full of testosterone, and have no idea how to treat people. So lets all respect each others views, disagree sometimes, but lets not start slagging each other off.

not quite the way I would have described it Greatnan but certainly interesting

'I find Gransnet to be a haven of polite, kind, intelligent people, mostly women, with a scattering of some very nice men.'
Worth repeating, I think!

j08 I do not mind what people think of me, never have, but it is interesting now and again to know how others perceive you. It also helps if you want to put your views across in a manner that you hope will convince other people.

I will also jump to your defence. I like your waspish interventions, and that is a single sided compliment, no underside. Oysters need grit to make pearls and a good discussion needs someone prepared to lob in the odd comment aimed at stirring things up.

Exactly Ceesnan and I'm constantly subject to personal attacks by one particular person.

You said, when, that you 'hate personal attacks, jibes and insults'. If this is the case then your comments to Jingle are hypocritical in the extreme!

What?

I can't believe what I am reading. Oh how 'holier than thou' and such hypocrisy from some!

Keep telling 'em that. I should be alright then.

Well, if we lose you, jingl, there's no hope for GN. Blandness will rule...

Sash! Lara is probably waiting in the wings. I am under Special Measures.

That's so unfair, when. This thread hasn't been 'de-railed' at all - it's a continuing discussion about the content of the OP.

j08 is entertaining.

Saintliness!!! sodding Fire!

What have I said now?! I simply complimented some posters on their sinfulness.

Sad that threads have to be de-railed by Jingle's need to cause strife. The same old, boring pattern again and again, ad infinitum. Have you ever tried to curb it, Jingle? Do you actually GET anything out of being a Gransnet member? You don't appear to

absent if you haven't got a sense of humour I will eat my hat.

Why would anyone put much thought into this?

Absent, it's not so much what you lack…

(that was to absent)

Hmm...