Just when you all thought it was safe - another gem from the Idiot.

Every cloud has a silver lining, kitty.

They don't have to go there now

kitty how you put up with him is a credit to you both you and your DD he really does take the biscuit and is living up to his idiot name.
Does he expect Christmas Day to change just for him? does he think he is that entitled, just smile when you see him and know he is the tit in this scenario and not you and DD. xx

No Bank holidays, no Easter, the fewer times the better really.
Look on the bright side!

Oh dear kitty sounds like something spermie would say [shakes head in despair] It's impossible to fathom their thinking.

DD thought she'd be the bigger person and let him have boys for Christmas lunch and afternoon. He turned her down 'because he wants to cook them bubble n squeak on Boxing Day

I expect idiot / spermie had already thought up their own plans for their perfect xmas day, and it doesn't include making an effort to entertain kiddies.

Reading this makes me realise how lucky my DD (and I)are ,perhaps because they are an "older " at47 and 49 couple). My SiL is going on Christmas Eve and staying until the 27th. The children 15 and 12 are so pleased and I am relieved that at the moment things are amicable.

Although DD3 is 27, the Idiot is 50! Ann!

Nina,

My very ex (1977!) disappeared post haste to Germany like an extra from Auf Wiedersehen Pet. Saved a lot of problems.

Katek We were hoping spermie would do the same as his parents live there.
No such b***dy luck !

Perhaps if you bought him plane ticket for Christmas.........?!

Buy 2 and he can take the Idiot!

What a good job everyone can "joke"about an awful situation when actually we are either screaming or weeping inside.

It's a lovely idea kitty

Trouble is we'd still have DD's boyfriend's ex and her family to deal with

kittyin that case he really is an idiot.

Block booking with Lufthansa....?

Annsixty Indeed yes! If these two grans are trying to find ways of coping with their DDs awkward exs, using some very black humour and rude words must help. The alternative is total despair.

KittyLester & Ninathenana to you both.

Nellie believe me, I have used some very rude words

Katey

Sorry, got your name wrong Katek

"Nina" I find using expletives when someone is being unreasonable is very theraputic. You could ask my OH for my list. He has had many of them directed his way of late.

Flipping gecko doesn't quite cut the mustard for the Idiot!! Could someone give us a definitive list! .

I can see a self help book forming here 'What Spermi and the Idiot did next' the definitive guide to making sure you don't marry a twit. You could make a fortune Kitty at least it wont spoil Christmas Day. .

Teetime thank you, you have just given me a LOL moment.

kitty DD has been known to use the term pratface or k***head

I wonder if that will be censored