Hull Accent

I'm pretty sure we've discussed this before, but there is a radio chap who was trying to pinpoint where one particular Northern accent ended and another began.

I can't for the life of me remember his name, even though I always enjoy the programmes he does.

I do remember him talking about the pronunciation of the word "house", and how some people say "I've just had double glazing fitted in me arse" or "I inherited me arse from me mother"

I don't know that one Pheonix.
But it reminds me of school days, reading Macbeth aloud in class, a murder had happened, and one of the boys, reading a part, said

"Wot - in wor hoose?"

They say "arse" for "house" in the Barnsley and South Yorkshire area.

Not in this bit of South Yorkshire they don't. Always been 'ouse - no 'h' unless you've been 'elocuted'!

Here in the soft South ,anybody who is rather posh says 'hice' for house.

I think I may have found it!

Many apologies if I've cocked it up. (Again)

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01ljwm4

rosesarered my step aunt and uncle were so what used to be called "far back in the throat" with pronunciation that when a visitor asked "what kind of ducks are they?" Replied "Cavalier King Charles" !

Hope this makes sense? Have to imagine an over the top upper class way of speaking!

Phoenix

Brilliant, Ian McMillan. He's the reason I carry on buying the Dalesman every month.

South Yorkshire? Where's that? Another upstart. We only have three Ridings in Yorkshire.

I've just enjoyed listening to that - thanks Phoenix and I think I was correct in where I said they use "arse" for "house". I worked in Sheffield for some years in the eighties and it was very common usage there then.

I suppose it depends on how you're pronouncing 'arse'. Cockneys call a house an arse as well, but the 'a' sound is different.

Ian McMillan didn't go far enough towards Chesterfield to find his change of inflection, or he would have found his "arse"! If he'd gone even further, over towards Matlock, he would definitely have found it. I live on the Sheffield/North Derbyshire border. We catch the bus to Chesterfield once a week and during the course of a forty minute journey, you can hear the accent change markedly the nearer to Chesterfield you get. I have friends who own 'ouses in North Sheffield and I've never heard anyone refer to them as "arses". As for your comment about South Yorkshire, Durhamjen, i am insulted.

Many thanks to all! Glad to amuse , albeit not through my own stuff!

Why are you insulted, Greyduster?
It's true. Yorkshire was divided into thirdings or Ridings, North, West and East. I think South Yorkshire only came into being in the 1974 reorganisation.

But Chesterfield's not in Yorkshire and neither is Matlock, and Ian McMillan is definitely Yorkshire.

I had my tongue halfway in my cheek when I said I was insulted at your 'upstart' comment, and I was referring to the fact that Ian McMillan started his quest to find where 'ouse became 'arse by heading south toward Chesterfield, as he seemed to think that that was where the change in dialect would occur, and gave up at Whittington as he couldn't find anyone to play his game! He then relocated his search to North Sheffield and surprise surprise, he finds one bloke with an accent sloppy enough to fit the bill. Search over!

My brother was staying in Yorkshire and went out for a pub meal with friends. When they'd finished their meal there was quite a lot of wine still in a bottle and they wanted to take it back to their hotel. My brother called the waitress and said "Excuse me, may I have a cork please?" A few minutes later the waitress returned... carrying a glass of Coca-Cola.

JoyBloggs

I came to live in Gloucestershire from Hull in 1986. Anyone I speak to who has lived in Hull would know where I come from. It's the way I sound my 'o's to rhyme with 'hose'. Hull is a really great city that has been through bad times but is very much on the up. Visit and go by road over the Humber Bridge - magnificent.
And don't expect to hear anyone say 'e yup' - that's a West Riding expression.

I sound my 'os' to rhyme with 'hose' too, Harlequin, although I'm not from Hull!

'Ey up' seems to be quite a common expression throughout the Yorkshire and Lancashire area - my granddad certainly used it and he was born and bred in Lancashire.

So it is - but not in Hull....