English anthem

What a load of nonsense anniebach in your post, your usual anti-English is rearing it's Welsh ahead again I see.How about we do as grumpaa suggests and ignore all suggestions from other countries in the UK.

It didn't say it in the article, but possibly in one of the links?
Parry,s wife was part of the Women's Suffrage Movement, so it's not surprising.
I presume it's royalty free now.

what was nonsense Rosesarered?

Is .Jerusalem not about Christ in Glastonbury and the brutality of the static mills

Is swing low sweet chariot not a song of freedom from slavery by death

Do you really believe God made you mighty ?

I didn't understand your post either Anniebach. I confess to loving Jerusalem, I love to sing it and I live in the north west where my ancestors worked (or slaved ) in the dark satanic mills. I don't belief Christ actually walked our green and pleasant land, other than in our hearts. I'd be very happy to have it sung at footi matches but I accept we're going to continue to hear the Queen sung.

If I were English and atheist I wouldn't want an anthem speaking of Christ trotting around Glastonbury and I wouldn't wish to speak of dark satanic mills, the former a lie , the latter not praise for a country there , certainly nothing to be proud of.

But that's OK, because you won't ever have to sing it

(not that I would choose it either btw)

I think he may have visited here during those undocumented years with his uncle who was allegedly a prominent tin merchant.

There is no proof either way though.

and I don't think the question in the hymn is rhetorical - it is a question ?

I couldn't care less what the England anthem is , just joined in the discussion, but seems it's only the English should give a view on words of the songs.

Anyone can give a view, and the English can choose which views to take into account.

Do you think the English should have an anthem more like:-

"Though foemen have trampled my land 'neath their feet,
The language of Cambria still knows no retreat"

then, Anniebach in the same vein as "Rebellious Scots to crush" in God Save the Queen?

Should it be division or harmony?

Anyone can give a view, how kind grumppa , as long as your advice to ignore views of anyone who isn't English is taken

Flower of Scotland recalls the famous victory of Bannockburn 700 years ago! Unfortunately those of us who had Scottish history drummed into us at school will also recall the infamous defeat at Flodden, commemorated in the dirge-like Flowers o' the Forest which admittedly wouldn't inspire the Scottish rugby team!