we are leaving yipee

jingl- of course we don't know the exact tarifs that will be levied. But do you really believe the rest of Europe will allow the UK to stop paying in, to stop free movement of people and still be able to trade with the for free?

Please ... sorry, don't want to be rude- but the mind does indeed boggle big time.

Thanks.

*passports are NOT currently needed....sorry!

Obieone since Republic of Ireland and North of Ireland are both in EU no passports are currently needed. We just drive over the border. Only indication of change is that road signs indicate distance in kilometres.

There is concern that now we may have to return to the bad old days of border checks, long queues and smuggling over unapproved roads.

Thanks to the EU, travelling between Belfast and Dublin is now a joy and can be done much quicker on the lovely big motorway N1 built with EU money.

My intention to get an Irish passport is that I will still be an EU citizen and able to travel easily through all EU countries.

The only pain is that ROI is in the eurozone, so we have to keep a stash of euros for when travelling across the border. That won't change.

We don't know about tariffs yet.

Anya- about energy companies being French, German, etc - who would have us (hmm literally) over a barrel- I did try to warn about this.

Nanaandgrampy- the situation re large multinationals is totally different now than during the crisis. The whole of Europe was in the crisis at the same time. Now, when the UK leaves the EU, they alone in Europe will have to pay very high tarifs to export goods to Europe- which the other countries won't have to pay. Chalk/cheese totally.

Pity us in N. Ireland. The majority of the country voted to remain. Now we are faced with the prospect of a return to border control and producing a passport to drive a few miles down the road

I think the key word is prospect, obieone, not what is happening at the moment.

Judthepud2. I hope you dont mind me asking, but I would be interested in hearing more about this.
I have a relative who regularly crosses the border, but was not doing so when passports were needed.

For regulars for example, is it just a matter of waving the same passport in front of people, and just crossing, or were there long queues sometimes?

Cheer up for Chatham. I doubt if all is lost. Not really.

I don't think anyone should be trying to make light of this and there really is nothing funny about voting to go into a completely uncertain future - the only certainty being that we will be poorer. Oh, yes, and that young people are blaming me as a Baby Boomer for voting out when I voted in and many Brexiters are being very aggressive about their win and treating it like a football match. Definitely nothing to be lighthearted about, all depressing.

willsmadnan...thank you for injecting some humour into the situation. God knows it is needed! And yes I voted out....
Hope you enjoyed your walk

In cloud cuckoo land if you think light bulbs will go back to the old ones!

Ha! American Fox news reported that Britain had voted to leave the United Nations!
And I thought I was confused!

Don't blame you.

Pity us in N. Ireland. The majority of the country voted to remain. Now we are faced with the prospect of a return to border control and producing a passport to drive a few miles/kilometres down the road. We have benefitted tremendously from EU grants to agriculture, research, social development and reconciliation projects.

Thanks England and Wales!

Away to apply for my Irish passport (we have an entitlement to dual nationality here) to make travelling in EU countries still easy.

We are a democracy and we have to accept the voice of the people. Contrary to popular belief, not every Leave voter is a moron; some of them, like me, agonised for weeks before casting their vote.
It will be hard, the may be a bit of a recessions.
The Eu will be very vindictive, it is already starting with the mayor of Calais wanting to renege on the treaty re. borders and passports. [we can have our blue passports back - yeay!]but we shall have our own sovereignty back, we shall be able to take our own decisions on our own fates.
It is useless to whinge about what has been decided, the people have spoken! Be positive, and supportive of the decision. After all it is what happens after every general election - perhaps not quite so divisive, but similar.

I'm a little sceptical of the big companies announcing they are moving jobs because of the vote to be honest. I worked for a big company in a senior position in the financial crisis before last ( who knew there had been so many ) and I was privy to the financials of that company.

So when they announced redundancies based on the impact of the crisis I also knew that the harsh reality was that they saw it as a way to trim the fat as they not impacted at that time by the crisis.

So it suited them to have a whipping boy and the cynical heart of me wonders if this is a similar situation?

Already several big companies and institutions are talking about moving their operations from the Uk to another EU country. We could be losing 1009.s of jobs far sooner that expected.

However you voted it is all done now and we just have go with the flow. In reality no one knows how it will all pan out in the end, and it's going to be a few years before we feel the effect of the vote. As with all things in life there will, I am afraid, be winners and losers.

The £350 million has been spent many times over this morning propping up the banks AGAIN.

No. Not everyone who voted Out are xenophobes. But the xenophobes who voted Out most likely swung it for them.

And install a wood burning stove
One Made in Britain I hope Anya

Why do people find it so hard to distinguish between the two?
There are a lot of opinion polls (which have often been proved to be wrong after results are out) which are being posted as Facts today!

£350m a week won't even pay the tea bill for all the lawyers and bureaucrats that will be needed to negotiate the exit. I'm sure Boris mentioned this, didn't he ?

I think I could stomach the decision if I didn't think that those politicians involved in Brexit weren't simply trying to progress their personal careers at Britain's expense.