Hooray - the Conservatives won the election!

Consensus politics suggests a strong and broad agreement between the main political parties.

Ha, ha! Yes, I can just see Corbyn and May getting together and agreeing an agenda that suits both of them... (didn't include the LibDems because not really in the running)

If Corbyn is trying to do consensus politics why did he need a hit list of MP's who didn't agree with him .

There is socialism and there is militancy , not the same

I suppose they could just carry on letting it leak and fall down and build social housing on there and then sell it off so that people could then sell it for £10 million in a few years.

Good idea?

There has been a lack of planned maintenance and/or the will to fund it. False economy.

Well he's not doing a very good job of 'trying to do consensus politics' by putting a lot of people's backs up, quite a lot of them from his own party.

I know djen but anniebach has been questioned about how she reconciles her membership of the Labour Party with her dislike of Corbyn and her disagreement with and lack of respect for Corbyn.

Jalima , I agree Yvette's sex should not make a difference but I believe it would, and she wouldn't need a set up like momentum to protect her, neither does she fear questions from the press and does give live interviews on Today

skwawkbox.org/2016/11/18/hm-queen-in-jez-is-right-shocker/

Because some of us agree with Corbyn does not mean we are blindly following him. We agree with his policies. We are socialists. He is trying to do consensus politics.
We didn't agree with Blair. He wasn't a socialist. He told MPs what they had to do and they did it.

All I have said about the momentum elected militant leader on here I have said openly st meetings , in emails snd in private conversations , I have no reason to hide , I give these reasons when asked to canvas for the party, no matter who asks me to. I have campaigned for many years for town and county councils, bi elections , general elections and the Welsh Assembly, I cannot lie about the leader so will not canvas for votes

I would not use my brother's nickname for me on here!

I prefer my username, which is not my alias either.

One doesn't assume a nickname; one is given it. One assumes an alias.

Yes, I think innocent could be a good name to describe Ed.

I agree about Yvette. Clever, capable and female, not that her sex should make a difference, but the Labour Party has been noticeably lagging behind in that area.

I have always said I have much respect for Brown, I have always said he could not 'do' tv, hard to believe but he has a great sense of humour and I have never met snyone move driven to helping children than this man.

Milliband was leader through the unions vote, this angered some and he just didn't have the charm that Cameron had , at times he seemed an innocent .

I think Labour needs Yvette Cooper to heal the party and also to take on some of the Tory MP's

I have to say that hiding behind an alias on this website to attack the (twice) elected leader of the party you apparently belong to is not impressive.
Surely everyone has a username on here?
Attacking other politicians, even other posters could therefore be construed as not impressive if an alias is used.

If the new leader of a party moves so far away from what you consider to be the basic tenets and core values of what you believe, or is so ineffectual that you believe that party will never get back into power, then surely you have the right to question it.
Particularly if past leaders of that party and other politicians who are members of that party are in agreement with you and not with the current leader.

The blind following of a leader without any questioning happens in countries such as North Korea. It is good that we live in a democracy where we are able to question and disagree with each other. I hope that we are never in a situation where we cannot question The Supreme Leader and where people who do question are villified (or killed).

Could you tell me why Brown and Milliband failed to win elections and who the great leader you are waiting for might be?
Unfortunately trisher it sometimes comes down to personality as well as policies. It should not, but it does. Brown did not have the personality nor did Milliband.
However, both were more appealing to many people than Corbyn.

I think the second Messiah great leader has yet to appear because Smith did not have it either.

Your Roget is probably newer than mine grumpa, but in the original Penguin (my copy is over 50 years old) both alias and nickname appear under Misnomer. The section before which is Nomenclature contains nickname as well but not alias.

Interestingly, my Roget lists nickname under name and alias under misnomer in separate, successively numbered sections.

The point is that just because two words are listed together in a thesaurus, this does not mean that they are synonymous, though of course they may be.

That's called mansplaining, grumppa.
I think I know that. However, if you look in any thesaurus you will see that nickname and alias are synonyms. Do you have a thesaurus? I have two. They both have nickname for alias. Even in a dictioary alias means an assumed name. If a nickname isn't an assumed name, I don't know what is.

While reading A Christmas Carol, the Ghost of Christmas Present yesterday with my grandson, we came across at least half a dozen words that meant happy, which is rather surprising considering what many people remember about the story.

Thanks grumpa for explaining clearly. So I use my nickname, bach - little/small - was fine for a tiny but not when one reaches 5'7" , causes amusement at times though

Some people do choose their own nickname so that doesn't hold water.
A thesaurus does list words of similar meanings but was intended to be used to find a word that could replace another word when writing. So an alias might certainly be a nickname and a nick name might certainly be used as an alias. Both would imply that a name is being used which is not the persons given name and which might therefore make it harder to identify someone.
One example might be Charles Dickens who first published under the nickname Boz.

A thesaurus is not a dictionary of synonyms, dj; it lists words with related or similar meanings.

I would suggest that although alias and nickname refer to names that are not the person's real name, an alias is chosen by the person concerned (I have chosen Grumppa as an alias), but a nickname is conferred on the person by others. Some Gransnetters may have a nickname for me, but I'm not sure I want to know!

I haven't looked at one profile and have no intention of doing so,

He said he supported in, he refused to make tv appearances and even went on holidays during the campaign, add this to the fact he had always been anti EU and he the morning following the result he said the invocation of article 50 should take place quickly

Yes I know he appeared at arranged meetings during the campaign ,you have always reminded me of this Jen. He made one appearance in Wales , how many more would he have reached if he had gone on tv, I couldn't travel fifty miles to hear him

I don't know what having an active profile has to do with anonymity JessM. You have chosen to make your identity clear on yours presumably because you have books to sell.

Most GN members who have viewable profiles remain anonymous so far as real names, and sometimes locations, are concerned. Presumably you think they're all hiding behind aliases too...

Can't remember, in truth, to all q's.

I have a long name (on planet earth) that is always abbreviated to a nickname, thus defining is as a bit nicked from my name (just made that up but it looks good). My alias is on Gransnet. This is what I thought. No?