No conscious plan. They fitted in (as anya said) and have become good men, perhaps in spite of us. Superficially very different they both have a deep seated work ethic, are loyal to their family, resilient, kind and thoughtful about others. Will help when we or anyone else needs it. I sometimes wish the work ethic wasn't so well entrenched, other than that wouldn't change a thing. I am very proud of the way they are.
You should all feel very proud (imho)
No fun being old under Andy Burnham .
‘The ‘professionals’ - finally finished, phew!





