Queen Camilla

Hospitals closed down ready for the crash, really? Not sure what you're stating about Diana's brother? You're going to tell me she was pregnant in a minute and the baby was ordered to be cut away and disposed of.

I agree with you Mrsmopp I would not like her to be Queen

Yep Stillalive . Not her brother her brother in law Robert Fellows ,private secretary to queenie was flown into Paris, he and members of MI5 stormed the British embassy, took control of the embassy and it was he who controlled all those involved in the murder, the air ambulance , Henri Paul the driver, the hospital , the ambulance , there were witnesses, the British ambassador didn't realise what was going on in his embassy . The same Robert Fellows was st the same time attending a talk given by Sir John Mortimer in a packed parish church in England,

That hospital was chosen so a certain doctor could abort the baby and orders were given to embalm her body to cover any proof that she had been pregnant

Surely not a conspiracy theory ? Oh and Al Fayed recognised a nurse who was involved at the hospital when he went to see his son's body .

To solve the problem, maybe Charles wont want to be King, and then William will be, then it will be Queen Catherine, now that does sound nice.

Someone should write a tv serial using all the information on this thread, its makes entertaing reading.

According to a journalist friend Philip has a female companion who would share his accommodation when he was at his carriage events, but no one uses the information in deference to the Queen.

The Royal family has a very efficient public relations team to show them in a good light. From Camilla being pelted with bread rolls in a supermarket, because she was hated so much, they have swayed public opinion now to her being accepted.
The Windsors are adapting all the time in various ways - Letting the public into Buckingham Palace, agreeing to pay taxes in order to keep in favour, paying for restoration to Windsor Castle after the fire (but using admission money from Buckingham Palace, so we paid anyway.)
If you had been told in 1997 when Diana was killed, that Charles would be able to marry Camilla and make her Queen, you would not have believed it. We were told when they married that she would not be crowned, now we are being persuaded to accept her as Queen.
The advertising campaign goes on. They are looking after Number One.

I think she should be Consort not Queen

I think she should be Consort not Queen

If there must be a succession, should be William. Just because people have money it doesn't automatically follow they have no morals or feelings, people from all walks of life are serial adulterers and liars, many more are not. Some of the coarse comments that have been made by certain people on here are their views, not mine or many like me. Lots of decent people out there who like fair play.

I am not keen on Charles but I suppose we have to put up with him but I really dislike Camila and don't want her to become queen. Lots of people have affairs but they way this threesome was handled by the Palace was a disgrace. Diana wanted to call the wedding off and was told she couldn't because the tea towels etc were already printed. They used a young girl to cover up Charles behaviour. Surely a future queen should be living with her king instead of living at "Raymill" which is costing 2 million per year in security alone. All the food for Raymill is delivered from the palace. Apparently she is at Raymill because she is bored with her marriage as it's not as exciting as when they were having their affair.... some people are never happy!!

I'm ambivalent about the Charles/Camilla thing. I do like Prince Charles and I like Camilla too. Like others, I'm not fooled by the St Diana thing either but Camilla as Queen? She'd only be consort anyway so not that important.

Anniebach I agree with you on Princess Margaret, she was given the choice to marry Townsend and give up her royal status, or renounce him and keep it. She chose the latter. Never behaved very royally though!

I think a lot of people took to Diana precisely because she wasn't saintly.
She seemed to be the first royal to actually show emotion.

Luckylegs If there must be a succession, it must be next in line, that is the eldest son of the queen. Anything else is NOT a succession, It is a choice. If there is to be a choice then it could just as well end up as Joe Bloggs from the fish shop.

Poly580 Where did you get that info about Camilla being bored? It sounds to me like fake gossip from a journo seeking to boost sales of his newspaper.

This whole thread is no more than "gossip" Elegran , of the most pointless trivial sort found in sleb mags and the redtops

There are lies, damned lies, and celebrity gossip.

sad, but true.
And Donald Trump thinks HE has problems??

Totally agree with mrsmopp and others who have said similar. The public are always being persuaded by the media campaign etc. They will do exactly as they please. Think the Queen continuing all these years speaks volumes.

I really dont agree with these conspiracy theories about Dianas death. There have been several independent investigations as well at the inquest and no evidence hAs been found of anything but an accident.

Mrs Mopp "The Royal family has a very efficient public relations team to show them in a good light. From Camilla being pelted with bread rolls in a supermarket, because she was hated so much, they have swayed public opinion now to her being accepted."
Every other celebrity etc these days have PR staff at hand.

What exactly has Camilla done to "deserve" that hatred and that sort of treatment? . Other than what hundreds of other people have done, eg having an affair.?

The those members of the public showed utterly appalling behaviour by verbally abusing anyone in a public place because they have been involved in adultery. That is mob behaviour. IMO this is far worse than the adultery. "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone." comes to mind.

As for the death of Diana as a conspiracy theory.
I am sure the secret service could, if they had wanted to, easily have bumped off the pair of them, but never by trying staging a crash in a tunnel. On a fearsome bend above a precipice maybe.

There are far too many variables in that situation to make it viable. You are relying on other peoples reactions and timing and that would be a really weak link in such a plan.

* mrsmopp' if there were 'like' buttons, I'd press the one on your post lots of times! The ' firm' look after themselves for sure. Whatever else, Diana taught them a big lesson, well done her!

I would rather neither Charles nor Camilla become King or Queen. Isn't it time we stopped all this royalty nonsense. It is 2017 after all!

I hadn't been back to the thread so hadn't seen a couple of posts responding to my earlier one. I have a friend who lives in the next village along from Bucklebury where Kate grew up and where her parents still live so I've heard a few interesting stories.

The Middletons are the kind of family who the older Royals would never have associated with in the past. I think William's choice of Kate demonstrates the break with the old school and their ways. I think Charles and Camilla are still part of this set and thus out of step with modern Britain . Not only should she not become Queen but it would be better if the Crown past straight to William.

Re parenting I would point to things like their largely 'hands on' parenting, reducing the input of nannies which I believe has caused trouble in Buckingham palace and their decision to spend Christmas day with her parents at home in an ordinary house. Despite the inevitable Eton experience, Diana went out of her way to spend time with her boys and to take them out and about to meet ordinary people and do ordinary things. A far cry from Charles's life but then he was a different generation and paid the price. Of course Diana was upper class but she had the knack of connecting with others which the old set of Royals have had to learn painfully slowly.

Great thread this. Very enjoyable, how many different opinions the Royals provoke!

I'm always slightly bemused by the way people harp on about how wonderful William is because he's the tragic son of Saint Diana, yet they are quite happy to dump the whole monarchy thing on him. He's seen how long the Queen has had to trail round the world shaking hands, I should imagine he'd be quite happy to put it off for as long as possible. People have been suggesting that the Queen should abdicate and pass the crown to him since he was at university!

Princess Margaret's love affair with Peter Townsend is always described as a tragedy she never recovered from and how different her life would have been if she had married him. But the fact that Charles finally married the woman he had loved for decades is considered sordid rather than romantic.

It was quite interesting to see that George VI and the Duke of Windsor were the first princes not to be expected to marry any available European princess. I can remember various minor royals being suggested as suitable for Charles.

Ironic. Saint Diana and her boy toy the most ironic of all.

I think she should be called queen if that is what she wants. I never liked Diana and think that her sons have turned out Ok with Charles as father. Of course it was tragic to loose their mother but all the fuss and that funeral just made it worse - They have not been helped by being royal.

When I was young I had a boyfriend who worked on a daily newspapr and he said that everyday the had news about Phillip's affairs but in those days they were noz allowed to publish.
The aristocracy have always had affairs and their rule was that all babies were brought up by the husband of the mother even if he was not the father. In that way every child had a father and the aristocracy survived and had a good time.
In some stately houses when they had house parties, there was a bell rung at dawn,so that straying husbands and wives could get back into their proper bedrooms before morning tea was brought in.
The English Aristocracy was never famous for its morals.