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grantobe Tue 28-Mar-17 10:34:36

Someone has done some research on workplace ageism and putting out some pretty astonishing figures

"78% of older workers claiming age discrimination exists in the workplace."

Admittedly I only work part-time and my work place has been great for things like flexible hours and understanding when I or DH was ill, but of course sometimes I do wonder what motivates some decisions made etc. I don't feel that ageism is a problem for me, do you? But do you think it's different when you are working part time? As opposed to full time.

here is the link www.eadt.co.uk/ea-life/are_many_over_50s_really_victims_of_workplace_ageism_what_s_your_experience_1_4948763 for the research and article
oh and I'm 58

bikergran Fri 31-Mar-17 11:03:13

At 61 bereaved at 59 I managed to find a job at our local supermarket (can I mention Asd.a) smile

They are "great" no discrimination against age what so ever,lots of colleges are in their late 60, but they have and do, take mature staff on (such as myself)

The younger ones are quicker faster learners, but us mature people are stayers, not flitting from one job to another, I for one hope I am kept on at As.da until retirement arrives. smile We have a good mix of young/mature etc and it seems to work fine. smile

gagsy Thu 30-Mar-17 20:10:26

I'm nearly 77 and still working, although part time, in health care. I love it and seem to get through as much work as people younger than me. My colleague who is younger than my daughter sent me a text saying please never retire. I shall do one day!

luluaugust Thu 30-Mar-17 09:53:48

I only suffered ageism in one job, I was barely 50, the only others in the office the same age were the boss and his wife everybody else was 20's and 30's. The boss was rather fond of one of the younger ones and I found out later that when they were discussing cutting back on staff she had suggested that I should go as I was old and had a husband to keep me! I didn't know this and asked to go part time for family reasons, after a short while I was let go, found something else no problem.

Yorkshiregel Thu 30-Mar-17 09:38:23

nannynormal I bet you smiled when you heard that! Good result! They say you will not be missed until you have gone and that is so true.

Yorkshiregel Thu 30-Mar-17 09:23:41

I was fed up at work because I could see all these youngsters getting on while I was standing still. It dawned on me one day that it was because I was very good at my job so they wanted to keep me where I was, and also they thought I would not take to new ideas because of my age. Well I showed them. In my own time I took an open University Course and got a degree. I also went to college and got another in Art History. They couldn't ignore me then but when I applied for a job which also meant promotion I think they were shocked. I got the job and kept it until I retired. So much for ageism!

Clarecrip1 Wed 29-Mar-17 22:44:32

My husband is currently in dispute with his employer. MOnly one bit is his manager's suggestion that "at your stage in life, when you're not looking to advance your career" why don't you stop doing this busy and exciting job and accept a minor role instead, or words to that effect. He's only 59 and became convinced that she was just trying to get rid of him. Eventually it looks like she may succeed, although we are trying to fight and at the very least expect a fair compensation!

Shizam Wed 29-Mar-17 22:31:08

I think I made myself feel old at work. Took redundancy from job I had for 20 years in media. Forgot how much older I was when then doing shifts in a new environment and felt like a rabbit in the headlights. Lack of training, different technology. Was a nightmare. Now scared to try again.

Chewbacca Wed 29-Mar-17 22:22:12

I too began a new job when I was 50 and was given a 3 months trial "to see if you can keep up". 13 years later, I'm still there and now train the new young members of staff who join our dept. I've never experienced any ageism in the workplace, but then neither I, nor my boss, would stand for it. Respect for anyone who does a job well, irrespective of age.

Millymoo Wed 29-Mar-17 21:50:00

After finding myself unemployed at the age if 53 I spent a miserable 3 months unemployed. I applied for a well paid jiob, complete career change and got it. I am now 59 was promoted 15 months ago and just starting a new project. I like my job and my colleagues. I have had no ageism. I sure the younger team members think I'm eccentric though but I can live with that smile

jordana Wed 29-Mar-17 19:59:09

I am still working part time at 71 and have never felt as if I should not be there . I put in a fair days work for a fair days pay but if I felt I could not pull my weight I would leave.

Marieeliz Wed 29-Mar-17 17:42:48

I worked until I was 73 and retired in 2012. I never had a problem with ageism, in fact I applied for the job when I was 52. The form had no place to put your age down.
I still have my naturally mousy hair colour. It is in the genes my Mum had auburn hair until she was past 90

I was a school administrator, the young teachers I really enjoyed working with, and it enabled me to see how lovely young people are. As I am single I probably would have had a different opinion of younger people if I hadn't worked with them.

One of the young teachers came into the office one day and said to my colleague and I that he had been at the school 2 years and not been off sick. We said we had been there 20 years and not been off sick, he said "I wasn't born then". We all laughed.

GrandmaMoira Wed 29-Mar-17 16:52:58

I found ageism in the NHS as I worked until getting my state pension at nearly 62. Managers expected me to retire when I was widowed at 57. Why? I needed to work more than ever. I didn't want to carry on so long but we all need an income and I don't know what the managers think I would live on.
On one occasion an HR Manager, who should have known better, referred to staff over 50 as elderly. I explained to her that in the NHS Care of the Elderly refers to those over 75.

TriciaF Wed 29-Mar-17 16:46:55

I've just remembered an experience I had related to ageism at work.
It was when I was at an age to think about early retirement - we were thinking of moving to another part of the country. I applied for a job there, went for an interview. As well as me there was a man about the same age as me, and 4 much younger people. This man and I were sent home after the interview.
I guessed part of the reason was financial - we had long service increments, at the top of the pay scale. (it was a Local Govt job.)
It didn't matter in the end, I was one of the first to get an early retirement package in my current job.

lovebeigecardigans1955 Wed 29-Mar-17 15:51:55

I've seen both sides of this coin. In a couple of jobs I worked alongside youngsters who were incapable of using their initiative (needing constant supervision) and when they ran out of work, they'd pick their mobiles up and listen to music, instead of asking what could they do next.
I've also worked in three places with the oldest person in the company and they threw their weight around due to their seniority. All behaving like stroppy teenagers.
Just bad luck, I assume.

VIOLETTE Wed 29-Mar-17 15:37:43

Also worked in the NHS until I retired ,,,,,found it about the only place I had worked where there was no ageism (I was the same age as virtually all my colleagues !

there were however two incidences of ageism when I worked as a temp for a while after I moved from the South to the Midlands, before I found a permanent job ...one was in a computer firm, where there was a permanent job going, and as I would have taken anything the Human Resources dept gave me a pile of CV's to go through and to send out letters inviting people for interview ....she said DO NOT send appts to anyone over 25 !!!! Why, I said ...she said because I can't ask them to do the banking or run errands for the milk etc ...I said I wouldn't mind, its a job I want ....

Another incident, also in the Midlands ...I was working at another temp. job with the Finance Director and General Manager, who were looking for a permanent member of staff ...the FD asked me to apply as he was pleased with my work ...BUT the GM said No we are looking for someone younger (and more glamourous !) ...I subsequently bumped into another member of staff in town after I had left, who said they had had to employ THREE people to do the job I was doing as the young girl they employed had no idea how to use the computer (and she was younger than me !) No idea how to talk to clients on the phone and no idea of keeping the books to trial balance ........had to laugh !

Lottielootron Wed 29-Mar-17 14:50:01

I am 65 and work in the NHS as a nurse. My best friend who will be 75 this year works in the same role. Admittedly we only work part time (24hours). The only negative comment was to her and was from a Consultant Anaesthetist, who should have known better.

Polremy Wed 29-Mar-17 14:20:28

I must have been in my early fifties at the time, teaching in a primary school.
The teacher in the next classroom came in one day to ask :
"How many pennies were there in a shilling in the olden days?"
I thought it very funny (fortunately) but did take early retirement at 55 shortly after that.

MTDancer Wed 29-Mar-17 14:19:40

To right RAF.
Good for you Louizalass, keep going until YOU want to leave

RAF Wed 29-Mar-17 13:18:13

The difference is that if you have been in a job a long time you will have built up respect.

But if you try and get a new job after 50, ageism really kicks in. You will be ignored on most applications, and if you limit your past experience to the past 10 years and don't put your date of birth on your CV (you don't have to) then you will certainly get the interviews, but as soon as you walk in, it will become apparent you have no chance.

Louizalass Wed 29-Mar-17 12:36:45

I'm 67 and still work full-time as an Administrator in a College. We have a good team and we've been together for many years. Nobody has ever asked if I was thinking of retiring and some even demand I don't because I know the job inside out! I confess that the job is demanding and at the end of a working week I can feel somewhat knackered but I'll keep on going until I feel the time is right. I'll probably ease myself in by cutting my hours down.... but for now, I enjoy the extra money! I've only been in this job 9 years and prior to that I worked 3 or 4 jobs at once (I live in a very rural area where full-time jobs are rare) so I was always short of money and was never able to save towards a pension or anything. I also have two grown up children who live in Australia & America.... which means expensive air tickets.... you can see my dilemma!

MTDancer Wed 29-Mar-17 12:02:52

I have been self employed for 15 years as an administrator for my husband who is a sole trader.
He now has an employed job and I have been looking for almost a year for a job.
I don't even get past the CV state (I am 58). It annoys me when I see the lack of attention some people have. I have over 40 years experience and good references.
I even applied for a voluntary role with WASPI and wasn't even given the courtesy of a reply!
I can only put it down to my age. As I cannot retire until I am 66 it is worrying that I am having such trouble to find a job

Barmyoldbat Wed 29-Mar-17 11:31:32

I was made redundant at 52 and was dreading getting another job but to my surprise ZI wnt for three interviews and got all three, in fact at one of them they told me they would hold the job open for me. Also in one office I was by far the oldest at 50 but I use to rent somewhere out the wilds for a few days away walking and cycling with a group of friends. Several times Young people at work would ask if they could come!

Emerald888 Wed 29-Mar-17 11:15:00

Nannynormal. My husband's aunt retired twenty years ago from running a department in a north london council. Several people then shared her job. The department was failing and they had to ask her back to sort out the mess! Presumably train the replacements.

goldengirl Wed 29-Mar-17 11:14:22

I think I've been lucky. I've never come across ageism at work and now I'm supposedly retired I'm working on 2 voluntary projects headed by young people and I'm thoroughly enjoying it. They're just great and make me feel a welcome part of the group.

Lyndie Wed 29-Mar-17 11:10:15

So many people over fifty struggle to get work and end up starting their own businesses and consultancies. Which is great. Which I did but some of us, with just the minimum pension to look forward to, need to work for much longer. I worry how these people will manage. Attitudes need to change to older people in the work place. How many older people serve coffees in coffee shops. Other than independent coffee shops.