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Anniebach Thu 22-Jun-17 10:40:18

Prince Harry has told an American Magazine that none of the younger Windsors wants to be King or queen, and if he becomes king he will still do his own shopping.

Pity he doesn't buy his own house and get a job

Anniebach Thu 22-Jun-17 15:27:41

Jalima, he cannot live his life after few years in the army swaning around , do other soldiers come home and while away the days or do they work to support themselves and their families. I just think he has a rather large ego and cannot say no to an interview .

yggdrasil Thu 22-Jun-17 15:59:41

I don't know about large ego, I think he is grown up and realised he is his own person and can speak for himself. Which isn't true of his brother or father.
They none of them choose to be royal, and they have a deep sense of duty bred into them for generations.
It is unlikely he would be allowed to 'get a house' because of the security considerations. He has done a lot for charity with his Invictus games among other things. It isn't as if he could get a job working for someone else, there would be constant harassment from the media. As there is now every time he wants to date someone.

paddyann Thu 22-Jun-17 23:34:21

Many children do lose one or even both parents and it must be traumatic and difficult to come to terms with but most are not living their lives in the glare of the media .
and none of them have the benefit of the privilege and wealth this young man has had,Many families are left on the breadline when they lose a parent...even more so since Mrs Mays government has taken their widows allowance off them This young man had everything he needed including a family that cared for him...frankly I get fed up hearing their whinging ,a stint of REAL life would do them all the world of good.

Rigby46 Fri 23-Jun-17 00:47:47

He could renounce his claim to the throne. He is independently wealthy ( money inherited from his mother). He was completely wrong to talk as he did during that interview. He has no judgement. What is the point of him?

Swanny Fri 23-Jun-17 01:19:03

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear! This man can't do right for doing wrong! Recent comments seem to put paid to the theory he is not Prince Charles' natural son. By opening his mouth and putting his foot in it, as Prince Philip has done on so many occasions, he certainly seems to have his grandfather's genes. Let the man be, he wanted a career and proved himself worthy in the British Army but was pulled out by powers greater than his own. When he promotes 'worthy causes' he is accused of cashing in on his mother's legacy. I wouldn't be in his shoes for all the tea in China, as the old saying goes.

Rigby46 Fri 23-Jun-17 01:28:01

The Army was a ridiculous career choice - he could never have been a fully operational soldier for any meaningful period of time because of his Royal status.

POGS Fri 23-Jun-17 02:38:29

So Rigby and paddyann can I ask have you ever :-

Set foot in Afghanistan as an operational member of the armed service?

Supported through deeds not rhetoric support for injured servicemen and women?

Supported charities and managed to raise mental health awareness into the nations psyche whilst at the same time being demonized by some , a point I fail to follow the logic of.

I am neither a Royalist nor Republican but perhaps that allows me to put prejudices to one side and see the man for what he does not who he is and most certainly I am not remotely interested in class warfare.

From what I deduce the failings of Prince Harry for some are his wealth and birth right which gives rise to the ad nauseam
comments that as sure as s--t flies off a shovel follow any thread re the Royal Family.

I accept that some of the Royal Family are maybe fair game but Prince Harry, really!

Christinefrance Fri 23-Jun-17 08:12:05

Well said POGS. I agree with your comments totally. I do think now though that Harry should move on from airing this in public and concentrate his efforts in other areas before he loses public sympathy.

Iam64 Fri 23-Jun-17 08:22:22

There is a thread running on whether it's possible to feel the pain someone else experiences. I don't expect I feel Harrys feelings but I definitely empathise. Families do their best for children. The RF no doubt believed continuing with their usual Church attendance, taking two boys who had only just been told their mother was dead to the service. It included being seen by waiting members of the public. To then expose them to crowds when viewing floral tributes, only to have them walk behind the coffin, in full view of crowds - who would do that to their children? I was appalled at the time but I can empathise with the Royals who did what they thought was expected of them.
I don't understand how so many feel it's ok to attack and criticise this young man,. He joined the army, lets criticise him for that. He behaved like so many other young men, let's have a go st him for that. He's done great work with Injured service personnel, let's say he should stop that and work at Tesco.
Give him a break. Losing a parent at the age he did is linked to risk of mental health problems in adult life. He, his brother and Kate are putting time and energy into the need for mental health services to be improved. Good for them.

gillybob Fri 23-Jun-17 08:27:52

I wouldn't use the word "poor" in relation with any of the royals.

Prince Harry is neither financially poor nor poorly. He is young, fit, good looking, extremely rich and privileged and can literally do whatever he likes with his life.

He has spoken recently about his mental health (following the death of his mother) but again I would say he is extremely privileged as many most young people with mental health problems will never have access to the level of help he will have undoubtedly had.

Anniebach Fri 23-Jun-17 08:40:58

What has he done this year? Appeared with William and Kate a few times to launch their charity but what else? The Ivictus Games which is a good charity will be held every two years,

He behaviour is very like Andrew, he was the darling of the Nation, good fun, not like his older brother ,who has always worked same as Anne,

There are many charities he could realy support , not just give his name too. He is nothing like his grandfsther, he is very like his uncle Charles

Rigby46 Fri 23-Jun-17 08:48:15

Neither is he young - he is 32. All the men I know of that age are working hard, often in socially important but poorly paid jobs. Some haven't had a pay rise for years. They have student debts hanging round their necks, are paying high rents with house ownership a distant dream. Some have battled mental health problems with scant NHS services available. Others have had personal and family problems to battle. There is nothing remotely special about him except his enormous completely unearned privilege. I thought his comments in the interview were frankly disgraceful and patronising. He should just suck it up like many other men have to and stop whinging or give it all up.

Mapleleaf Fri 23-Jun-17 08:50:03

Well said, POGS.
Seems to be a lot of envy regarding his wealth/status.
In some people's eyes, whatever he does/ doesn't do will be wrong.

gillybob Fri 23-Jun-17 09:04:10

In my eyes If he Had a real job (you know like other people his age) then he would have the right to moan about "his lot". As it stands he lives the life of a playboy and has no right whatsoever to moan.

Anniebach Fri 23-Jun-17 09:07:54

I certaintly am not envious of him or anyone's wealth. For me living in a country where we have so many homeless I am irritated by the weak defence put forward for Harry, we pay for his house, his security team, he gives sod all back to the country. As for envy of his status, what status ?

Lillie Fri 23-Jun-17 09:28:12

Maybe his choice of wording was unfortunate. By using the word "want" he is implying no one has the will or the inclination to do the job, which comes across pretty poor and lacking in commitment. Maybe he could have said, jokingly, something along the lines of, "Spend a few weeks with us in our jobs and then tell us if you'd like to do it!" I don't think he is very bright at being interviewed, and, as others have said, he should put an end to these outpourings. What next? Writing his own book?

Lillie Fri 23-Jun-17 09:38:04

Harry is actually rubbish at delivering speeches anyway. The content is poor and his diction is awful. And that is undoubtedly after years of expensive elocution lessons. (And yes, I am a linguistic specialist!)

In Germany they used one of his speeches for an English exam paper recently, thinking it was topnotch English material. The pupils complained he mumbled and didn't enunciate properly, they couldn't pick out the answers. After specialists examined the piece, it was removed and apologies made because it was so poor.

merlotgran Fri 23-Jun-17 09:43:29

Charles is his father, Annie Not his uncle.

Anniebach Fri 23-Jun-17 09:49:56

I am getting more irritated sorry.

He did four months in Afghanistan , he was protected there by the Ghurkas

When he did his army training a private room was refurbished for him in the camp , he nipped off frequently to spend time with Tiggy on her parents estate, I saw him set off on training exercises, for some reason there was a Ghurka in the group who carried a very large pack and I think Harry had to go without stuff because hid pack seemed smaller.

Yep, as he said - I am just one of the boys

Rigby46 Fri 23-Jun-17 09:57:55

As soon as people play the 'you're just envious' card, it's clear they have no argument to make. If he's so amazingly wonderful, how come he was stupid enough to make those comments. Knowing full well the amount of coverage tgey would receive. Imagine a grown up 32 year old teacher talking to his local radio station about how no one in the school really wanted to be the head? They'd be suspended on the spot. The elephant in the room is that basically, he's not very bright and can't string a sentence together in a coherent, meaningful way.

Rigby46 Fri 23-Jun-17 09:59:39

And someone in his position shouldn't be making ' an unfortunate choice of words'.

Anniebach Fri 23-Jun-17 10:07:40

Merlot, Diana had two sisters Sarah and Jane, and a brother Charles,I don't think it is a Welsh custom to call your mothers brother uncle , I could be wrong

Haven't heard if Charles Spencer has found wife number four yet , sorry of topic

Anniebach Fri 23-Jun-17 10:14:14

I think some still see the vunerable twelve year old walking behind his mother's coffin, doubt there were many who didn't want to wrap their arms around him, I did. That was twenty years ago,,

Seems like John McDonald after calling people f*****g losers , he is just a naughty boy.

henetha Fri 23-Jun-17 10:17:41

I'm a strong monarchist and a big fan of Princes William and Harry. But I think enough is enough and Harry should stop these outpourings now and try to find a useful way to fulfil his undoubtedly difficult role in life.

merlotgran Fri 23-Jun-17 10:18:39

Sorry, Annie I didn't realise you meant Charles Spencer.