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GNHQ please make it clear that these forums are public!

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Grannyknot Tue 15-Aug-17 16:25:44

I am forever warning people that these forums are public and a thread may end up on Facebook.

I really think that GNHQ should put a note on the Forum home page to that effect in big, bold, text - red, underlined, anything to draw attention to that fact. Put it in the welcome email too. Especially as some posters are not only new to GN, but new to forums.

I can't bear to think that an already stressful situation is made worse for someone because their posts are used as a "trailer" on the Facebook page.

(Writing this because I noticed that someone has been caught out by this, how upsetting).

Leticia Fri 18-Aug-17 18:34:55

I would call it 'getting cross' when you told me that people were aware and we were only discussing FB. They clearly were not aware and I have at least caused some people to close down their GN profile.
I think that they are getting more upset about FB because very few do Twitter.
I wasn't aware, until I looked, how much is on Twitter. I shall certainly not give any personal advice on sensitive subjects in the future now that I know how far it travels.
I think that a young woman that I know is very sensible to keep photos of her children off the Internet- she doesn't even post on FB- only adults.

Ana Fri 18-Aug-17 18:12:13

Bet they don't put this thread on FB! grin

(Having to use bold because of course we still don't have the italitcs facility...)

Ana Fri 18-Aug-17 17:57:06

I did not 'get cross'.

Leticia Fri 18-Aug-17 17:56:55

I also thought that the thread was started to make people aware. It certainly made me aware that Grannyknot had started a very important thread because many people are completely unaware on here.

Leticia Fri 18-Aug-17 17:54:38

I have no idea why you thought that Ana - I am not on the least OK with it. I just realised that nothing on the Internet is private and even you have high privacy settings on things like FB - GN doesn't have any. I pointed out that it was not just FB and then you got cross and told me that was what the discussion was about! People need to be aware that the issue goes far beyond FB.
Not sure if GNHQ realise as they came on to say they hadn't posted a picture, when I only used that as an example because I had seen it!
I was surprised myself to see what was in Twitter. I don't follow GN , if I did every tweet would be on my timeline. If I had posted advice, of a sensitive nature, I wouldn't want it on Twitter.

Cherrytree59 Fri 18-Aug-17 17:43:56

It is not just fb and Twitter everything that is posted t'internrt is on Google to be viewed by the world.

The family pictures that some GN members post are now on Google for all the world to see!

This was brought home to me earlier this year when I was browsing Google and I spotted a post where a person was looking for a particular family.
The people they were looking for had the same names as my Grandmother and her siblings.
I nearly spewed my coffee out!!
It had been lifted from Ancestry UK dated 2004, a 13 year old post.
I called Ancestry UK who said they couldn't help because of Data protection
"But its on Google" I said

Anyway had 14 day free trial on A/UK and found a cousin in USA.
Worked out ok but just showed that just because one posts on a particular site it is out there forever on the Internet.

Ana Fri 18-Aug-17 17:42:20

Oh, I thought you were fine with it all, Leticia - you've been telling us all day that we're naive and should be more aware...hmm

Leticia Fri 18-Aug-17 17:35:45

There are sensitive issues linked to Twitter by GN. If I were cookiemonster66 I wouldn't want my thread to go anywhere other than GN. Was she asked for permission? Does she even know?

Leticia Fri 18-Aug-17 17:12:45

A picture of Shysal is on Twitter because you linked the entire thread and she put a photo with her post. It is of her when she was a child - but even so would she have wanted it?
To find it on Twitter you just click on the GN account and scroll down.

Oldwoman70 Fri 18-Aug-17 16:29:43

I think the difference is that to find it on the web you would have to type in First Day at School, how likely is that. If it is on an open FB page anyone can see it. Yes I know anyone can read posts on GN (perhaps GNHQ should look into making it visible only to logged in members) but how many random people look through a search engine and see a website called Gransnet and think "oh I'll click on that because it is bound to have something I will want to see"

petra Fri 18-Aug-17 16:21:54

Lona
Same here. Take out Facebook, Twitter and any other social media and it's all there for anyone to see the minute you put fingers to keyboard.
The clues are there: World Wide Web.

FarNorth Fri 18-Aug-17 16:19:48

There is a photo on the First Day at School thread. If that thread is on Twitter won't the photo be there?

LaraGransnet (GNHQ) Fri 18-Aug-17 16:13:01

Hello, again just to clear some things up. No one's name has appeared on our Facebook posts and we haven't posted a picture of Shysal on Twitter (we don't have any photos of her). smile

Lona Fri 18-Aug-17 16:01:35

As far as I can remember, Gnet have been posting links on Fbook for a long time now. How many members have been recognised?
Not many I bet.
Considering how many intelligent, well educated, sensible members there are, I'm very surprised that so many know so little about what happens online.

Leticia Fri 18-Aug-17 15:09:23

I am using an iPad and they are clearly visible top and bottom of this page.
GN may not Tweet anything of a sensitive nature but anyone can.

Leticia Fri 18-Aug-17 15:07:52

I doubt whether people like shysal are aware that their school photo is now on Twitter- I am sure that she didn't post it thinking that.

BlueBelle Fri 18-Aug-17 15:01:52

And no I don't have any links showing up at the top of every page Leticia however I have found them they are at the very bottom and not on my viewing screen I only see them if I scroll across something I hadn't needed to do before so I had certainly never seen them I m using an iPad and I bet people using phones probably hadn't seen them either

BlueBelle Fri 18-Aug-17 14:53:01

I think it's more than warning people because at the end of the day many people on here have said they are no longer confident to post anything more than the weather or news of the plants in their garden This is a huge shame because although we all knew it was a public site the chances of someone seeing our posts and recognising us was pretty slim however with fb and I m sure Twitter ( I don't tweet) its a different ball game, as anyone can see the threads and Im pretty sure the threads that are controversial or oooh ah missus of a delicate nature will be the ones HQ share

I think the damage is done now and unless the two groups are NO LONGER linked I think we will have a poorer and a diluted site

Leticia Fri 18-Aug-17 14:41:57

I can't see why that matters Ana when I can lift any discussion I want and use it.
Some people seem very naive about the whole thing. If you look at NetMums they tell you how many people have viewed a thread. I just went on now (not a member) and the first thread I saw had 4 replies but had had 252 views. This will no doubt be similar - just not shown - many more lurk than post.
I can't say that I have seen anything on FB but GN are certainly on Twitter and they link things everyday. E.g The last one was 'Your first day at school' maybe, like me, you didn't intend to have your post open to their 18.3K followers and anyone who retweets it - but that is what happens!

The discussion may well be about GNHQ feeding links to FB but it needs widening - everyone needs to be aware that it isn't merely FB!

FarNorth Fri 18-Aug-17 14:40:21

"It's only if we see a thread that we think will resonate with our Facebook followers we will sometimes post a link to it." said GNHQ.

Clearly they thought a very personal thread that gave too much identifying information deserved further sharing.
So that's not very reassuring to hear.

Devorgilla Fri 18-Aug-17 14:27:56

'Sacred' in the sense that it's manners to ask if you want your post 'lifted' from one arena to another.

Ana Fri 18-Aug-17 14:26:30

I think most of us knew that anything on the internet can be read by anyone, Leticia.

What we didn't know was that GNHQ were feeding links to various threads to FB, which is what the current 'discussion' is about.

lemongrove Fri 18-Aug-17 14:25:00

Blinko I think you are right, a name change could well be the best way to go ?I will certainly be more circumspect in future.

Charleygirl Fri 18-Aug-17 14:24:45

annsixty I agree, there are thousands on GN but the vast majority are there for the competitions. As discussed on other forums, it is good sometimes to recognise the name of a person who posts who has won.

Many lurk and rarely if ever post but there are those of us who are quite prolific posters. Now that I have blacked my profile I do not think that I could be recognised. I will certainly forget very quickly where posters live.

Leticia Fri 18-Aug-17 14:23:40

But why would it be Devorgilla - you don't have to log in to read any of it. Even if you did absolutely anyone can log in.
Well done for raising it Grannyknot - there is a huge need for it to be said, something that I hadn't realised.
NOTHING on the Internet is private.