BREXIT? Am I just plain stupid?

I do hope Brexiteers are happy about that. I am sure they will come on and say it doesn't matter that we lose the EMA and the European Banking Authority.
After all, it's just another few thousand people to be unemployed.
Sorry, I forgot, we don't have any unemployed here.

The possible loss of the EMA was one of the first things we were warned about prior to the referendum; and it was a local branch of the Conservative Party that told us about it. It's more than just a loss of employment, isn't it; I mean, wasn't it quite prestigious [sp] to have it based here?

whitewave

Are you thinking of that right wing, swivel eyed loon Angela Merkel?

Not only that, tegan, but we had over 36,000 scientists, etc., visiting the UK every year on the strength of having the EMA here.

I can remember Davis stating catagorically back in April that those agencies would not be leaving -whoops.

I read today that he was refusing to go to other EU meetings unless he was sent on a private jet, I think, or was it by airforce plane!
He's really lost it.

POGS
Seems Merkel has more on her plate than Brexit at the moment as Germany is in crisis, no coalition!

Spain is in crisis with Catalonia, Greece is always in crisis and don’t think Italy is doing well either.

The EU fat cats are never in crisis though, so should be able to give their full attention to us and how much they want to screw out of us.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-davis-brexit-negotiations-private-raf-plane-demand-brussels-talks-european-union-eu-capitals-a8064656.html

dj did you see Kuenssberg s interview with him a couple of days ago? He looked very puffy eyed, as if he’d overimbibed the night before I thought.

But when Kuenssberg asked him was the most intractable - Brussels or his fellow ministers he replied , his ministers.

He has complained about being frozen out by Gove and Johnson. I suppose those two are up there old games of succession again.

Reading that U.K. is willing to move up to 40bn in divorce bill and accept ECJ jurisdiction.

You sound pleased that those countries are having problems lemon, or am I mistaken?

I am astounded that people did not understand that there was always going to be a final settlement. A quick reading of the EU budget would make it obvious.

They ought to have been honest and put it on the bus. But honesty is not something we’ve learned to expect from Brexiters.

Not particularly pleased Tegan2 but not too bothered either.

The was to POGS comment btw

I saw it, whitewave. I thought he looked like he needed some sleep, poor man.
He must have been burning the midnight oil rewriting all those statements about leaving the EU, and all the bad things that will happen.

Actually, it was his laugh that was the most unnerving.

I am wondering now how this afternoons decision will go down with the Tory loons and indeed how long the decision will last. On previous experience 3-4 days at most. It must be driving Brussels around the bend.

Yes, I would think lack of sleep is a distinct possibility when you have such important negotiations going on, or would you be as fresh as a daisy yourself?
Some seem to treat the negotiations with the EU as a mildly amusing episode on tv and cheer on the EU as if at a football match.
This is still your country too ( unless you decamp to Denmark.)

To be honest dj and if I didn’t know any better, which I don’t, he had the appearance of an old soak. But I know nothing. So I assume his brain is always working at top speed

The trouble is that what they all seem to be intent on not focusing on is NI - that is the greatest difficulty, and one which has the potential to bring about the greatest disaster for its citizens.

Nobody has mentioned just what a seamless border actually means for the two countries, or perhaps they simply don’t understand.

The people who work for him don't think that, whitewave. They think he is distinctly lazy, with little brain to speak of.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-passporting-rights-banks-financial-services-michel-barnier-speech-talks-david-davis-a8064836.html

To my mind staying in the SM/CU is a no brainer.

If talks break down then the £ will fall again, with the upward pressure on prices. But if we come out of the SM/CU then we will have to add up to 25% in tariffs, greater transport costs etc.

Why on earth are we willing to accept that.?