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Grannyknot Tue 18-Sept-18 21:24:06

I'm knitting for a boy baby. Is it still "right over left for boys" and "left over right for girls" when it comes to buttonholes? Or has that fallen by the wayside ?

It may even be the other way round...can't remember!

Grannyknot Thu 20-Sept-18 22:17:27

Thank you.

Melanieeastanglia Thu 20-Sept-18 21:16:23

It looks great. A change from the pastel colours which people often use for little babies.

Jalima1108 Thu 20-Sept-18 21:16:12

I like easy too these days, and there are some lovely yarns around.

I hope all goes well with mum and baby

Grannyknot Thu 20-Sept-18 21:05:30

It's a self-patterning yarn. I can only do "Easy" grin.

The L&R front are the same length BTW, that's not a very good photograph.

I like knitting those little "helmet" beanies with the earflaps too, this one will still get a pom-pom hanging from each earflap (in plain grey because the beanie took the last of my wool).

This is for a very special baby, his Mum had treatment for breast cancer in her twenties (she is well clear).

Jalima1108 Thu 20-Sept-18 20:41:56

Lovely Grannyknot!

Is that a self-patterning yarn or an intricate pattern?

I like those colours too.

Grannyknot Thu 20-Sept-18 20:15:07

Here's the outfit for interest smile.
I call it "The Coat of Many Colours". It was fun to knit as you start at one sleeve and carry on, knitted across, (so because of that it has a lot of "give").

4allweknow Thu 20-Sept-18 19:19:24

Looking on to the garment from the front buttons should be on the left hand side, therefore when wearing garment button holes on left crossing to right to fasten. Obviously oppisite for girls. Wouldn't bother if you have made it wrong side about. You are taking the trouble to make a gift, any idiosyncrasies should be overlooked.

olliebeak Thu 20-Sept-18 07:53:10

I only ever worry about this when the knitted garment is to be worn by a child that's learning to 'dress itself'.

When it comes to newborns/18mths, why worry whether it's one way or the other confused

Jalima1108 Wed 19-Sept-18 20:48:36

So she is Bagatelle
Is she left-handed?

RosemaryAnne Wed 19-Sept-18 19:10:24

What a great idea to make buttonholes on both sides. I'd never have thought of that ☺

nipsmum Wed 19-Sept-18 18:11:19

I often put button holes on both sides. Providing they are level you just sew the buttons over the hole.s that are not required

Jan51 Wed 19-Sept-18 16:30:45

A tip I picked up on a knit and natter fb group. If you don't know the sex of the coming baby work the buttonholes on both bands and then when you know which ones you need you can use the others as markers for the buttons and sew them up as you sew the buttons on.

Bagatelle Wed 19-Sept-18 16:19:57

When I fasten my husband's shirt buttons, I have to stand behind him and watch my hands in a mirror! Does that say something about my brain?

sluttygran Wed 19-Sept-18 16:19:16

Children always flatten our best ideas, don’t they? wink

Bagatelle Wed 19-Sept-18 16:17:53

In Jalima's picture Meghan has her coat left-over-right.

Jalima1108 Wed 19-Sept-18 15:54:44

However, there is a snag to that idea - when little boys get a bit older (eg two) they can become most indignant if you try to make them wear a garment which does up 'the girls' way.

I can remember DS protesting when I tried to do that to him. "This is a girl's cardigan'!!
Funnily enough, girls don't seem to mind.

sluttygran Wed 19-Sept-18 15:45:27

If knitting for a child, I think the buttons should be on the left for a right-handed child, and the right for a left-handed child.
That will make dressing themselves easier, whichever gender they are, and will prove that rules are made to be broken!smile

Grannyknot Wed 19-Sept-18 15:07:14

True jalima that's why I'm now knitting for other, newer, babies smile

Fflaurie Wed 19-Sept-18 14:09:33

This came about because in the early days, 'Ladies' didnt dress themselves, their maids dressed them. It was easier for the maid to fasten buttons and toggles right to left. Also the men, had to have their right hand free for their swords and later guns, so they would dress using the left hand only left to right.

DeeWBW Wed 19-Sept-18 14:07:50

It's definitely right over left for girls - have a loot at a woman's coat. If you look at a man's jacket, you will see left over right.

Jalima1108 Wed 19-Sept-18 13:31:26

I must go and finish the garment I'm knitting Grannyknot instead of posting on here!
It's probably the last one I'll make for a DGC because when they reach a certain age they just don't want Granny's knitteds any longer - however fashionable the pattern.

Grannyknot Wed 19-Sept-18 13:29:24

gmelon that is very true. Love in every stitch.

Jalima1108 Wed 19-Sept-18 13:28:27

There doesn't seem to be much equality in the reasons why boys are left over right and girls are right over left!

Swords, Napoleonic decrees about women's clothing, -v-babies, side-saddles
hmm

gmelon Wed 19-Sept-18 13:25:49

Grannyknot
A child wearing a hand knitted garment, it's a sign that the child is loved, someone took the time to make it.
Whichever way the buttons are!

Elegran Wed 19-Sept-18 13:09:02

I've just found some more theories.

One, that in armour, metal plates would overlap so that a lance wielded by a right-handed opponent wouldn't slide under so easily and into the wearer.

Second, that ladies would ride side-saddle facing the right side of the horse, so their clothes fastened left-over-right to cut down the daughts that blew in from the front.

Third, (probably apocryphal) that ladies would copy that pose of Napoleon with his hand stuck inside his jacket to mock him, so he ordered that women's clothes be made fastening the other way. (Maybe the mocking made him feel a right tit)