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Grannyknot Tue 18-Sept-18 21:24:06

I'm knitting for a boy baby. Is it still "right over left for boys" and "left over right for girls" when it comes to buttonholes? Or has that fallen by the wayside ?

It may even be the other way round...can't remember!

aggie Tue 18-Sept-18 21:33:46

what way does your own cardigan/coat fasten , boys are the opposite

Grammaretto Tue 18-Sept-18 22:22:00

I wonder how these customs came about? Its probably something to do with which hand knights held their swords. Does anyone know?

Every knitting pattern says: for boys make the buttonholes on the left hand side.

Melanieeastanglia Tue 18-Sept-18 22:27:25

I think it's still "right over left for boys" and "left over right for girls".

Elegran Tue 18-Sept-18 22:39:28

No, the other way round. Women are always right .

Jalima1108 Tue 18-Sept-18 22:40:36

I thought it was the other way round - left over right for a boy.

I'm just finishing off a small garment for a girl and the one buttonhole is on the right and the button on the left side of the garment
.Just check your own cardigan or coat Grannyknot to make sure
confused now

Melanieeastanglia Tue 18-Sept-18 22:45:20

Sorry - it appears I made a mistake. Thank goodness I only said "I think" and not "I am sure".

Jalima1108 Tue 18-Sept-18 22:48:07

Women are always right .
That's why, when we're making a drink or serving up a meal in our house, my cup or my dinner plate is always on the right.
grin

Grannyknot Wed 19-Sept-18 07:24:29

Thanks, everyone. Why I asked is - I've made a mistake with this cardi so it's going to be as if for a girl, but the baby is a boy. So I wondered whether it is still important which side the buttonholes are on. Hopefully this generation of mothers won't know nor care!

One does wonder where the custom originally came from ...

kittylester Wed 19-Sept-18 07:29:06

jalima, i always do that but I had never stopped to wonder why. I thought it was related to me being left handed.

Elegran Wed 19-Sept-18 08:09:26

I think the reason is that men could hold their coat closed with the left arm while still having their right arm free to skewer an attacker. Babies are more often carried on the left arm, so women's coats fastened on the right. However, babies are mostly in buggies now and swords are out of fashion.

Iam64 Wed 19-Sept-18 08:17:14

What a good explanation Elegran. It's similar to the reason given for training dogs to always walk on your left side. It leaves the right hand free for your gun you see.
I love knitting but I CBA with left/right side button holes.

harrigran Wed 19-Sept-18 08:49:14

From the days of royalty being dressed by their valets, easier for someone standing in front of them and also for hanging the sword.

Elegran Wed 19-Sept-18 09:29:09

Or small boys being dressed by their mothers.

Grammaretto Wed 19-Sept-18 09:50:22

I go to a knitting group where I'm kept right or should I say correct.
Thanks for the explanations Elegran and harrigran

I think the valet idea is probably the reason. Men always needed someone to dress them. If I wear a man's shirt I find the buttons tricky. My OH has an infuriating habit of pulling his shirt over his head and thereby straining the buttons.
I agree with OP and don't think baby or mum will even notice though the other gran may!

humptydumpty Wed 19-Sept-18 10:07:25

Maybe use a different form of fastening like a zip!

Grannyknot Wed 19-Sept-18 10:47:53

humpty zips in knitting is way beyond my skill level smile

grammaretto the other granny can't knit, so she best keep schtum if she does notice smile

Thanks for the explanations, I am proceeding in the spirit of the times and going to embrace the change in this instance - I'm sure the baby won't be fussy grin

Urmstongran Wed 19-Sept-18 11:47:15

You could always say ‘yes it’s a baby girl but I wanted her clothing to be gender fluid’. ....

Annsan Wed 19-Sept-18 11:48:22

Does it really matter?

gmelon Wed 19-Sept-18 12:02:51

Have you completed the whole knack band or buttonhole side?
Is it possible to sew up the buttonholes and re knit them into the other side.
It is right over left for girls and opposite for boys.
The pattern will tell you.

gmelon Wed 19-Sept-18 12:03:48

*Knack band??
Neck band

Grannyknot Wed 19-Sept-18 12:27:50

annsan that's my question! smile

gmelon the pattern didn't say, it's one of those written-on-the-fly patterns that I found on a blog. It's lovely though, it knitted sideways starting at one of the sleeves so the fun is in the construction - and it's forgiving in terms of stretch.

Grannyknot Wed 19-Sept-18 12:28:42

... meant to add, so the neck band isn't separate.

GabriellaG Wed 19-Sept-18 12:28:51

Yes . Right over left for boys

Bathsheba Wed 19-Sept-18 12:38:55

I always understood it dated from the nobility having ladies’ maids to dress their ladies. That originally all clothes buttoned up the ‘boys’ way, but ladies maids found it tricky so thy began to make them with the button on the opposite aid.
But I don’t recall where I read this, so happy to stand corrected ?