What do you think now?

You are right Granny23, those who don't want to vote can just abstain. Those who care about the future of our country must pay attention to the evidence before they cast their vote.

Both the Bank of England and Treasury forecast the UK will be worse off under all Brexit scenarios - including the PM's deal.

news.sky.com/story/live-chancellor-philip-hammond-to-reveal-brexit-economic-impact-analysis-11565724

I have never understood the objection to HAVING to vote in an election or referendum. No one HAS to vote, no one HAS to watch the TV debates, no one HAS to deliver leaflets, knock doors, contribute money to campaigns. It is perfectly possible to avoid anything to do with it, watch Soaps (where no one every seems to vote or discuss matters political) and allow those who are interested or passionate about it to make the choice. I know people who go abroad on holiday to avoid the late stages of the campaign.

If you DO want to vote and have your choice counted, then it will take 10 minutes of your time to do so. How much time, thought, research, discussion and effort to understand the issues you put in is entirely up to you.

Can anyone explain why being asked to vote is such a burden?

I think there should be another vote.

are you not at all worried then
I'm often very frustrated
I'm often a little sad
I'm sometimes a bit angry
But worried, never.

well, varian, all my worrying will not make a jot of difference.

I need to watch my bp.

Are you not at all worried then?

whatever = bored with

All your worrying isn't getting us any further though varian

Bored of, bored by, whatever. Brexit is too important for anyone to write off as boring. The threat of brexit it is a threat to the future of us all.

Thank you Jallima1108
It’s good not to be shot down just for sharing the latest news on this topic! Appreciate it ?

people Bored of Brexit!

quick intake of breath!
Bored of, bored with or bored by?
I will go and sit in Pedants' Corner - although I am not criticising you *Urmstongran as you merely told us about it.

I suspect most of the BOBs were folk that never took the trouble to try to understand the issues before they voted leave.

Apparently there’s a new acronym ... BOB’s. ... which stands forpeople Bored of Brexit!
TM (and her eminent advisers) are hoping that The Great British Public ‘just want us to get on with it’.
Fat chance.
I can quite understand why she’d like us all to be fed up of it all after these botched negotiations!

If we have the opportunity to express our views on whether to accept TM's deal, no-deal or to Remain in the EU, I hope we can all just have the sense to use our brains this time and not believe the lies.

It seems to me the more we delve into the what ifs of both sides of this situation, the less we know, so of course there should be another referendum taken on known facts, not guesses, supposition, lies, predictions etc etc.
It’s like jumping off a cliff, hoping that the tide is in!

Exactly trisher. You do wonder where this brexit propaganda has come from.

Surely there needs to be a much stronger message put across about the tremendous benefits that we have enjoyed as EU members.

Our economy has been stronger because we are part of the world's largest and most successful trading block.

EU regulations, all approved by our successive governments which have improved workers rights and protected our environment.

The avoidance of conflict between EU member countries in our lifetimes and the GFA, ensuring the end of the "troubles" in NI.

The freedom for British citizens to travel, work and study in any EU country and the great contributions made by EU citizens living in the UK.

Great collaborative projects in science and technology.

Investment in infrastructure and development in regions of the UK which have been sadly neglected by our own governments.

Close co-operation in security and crime fighting.

A barrier to the Putin/Trump forces undermining our society and becoming more influential.

-and so many more good things which might never have happened without our EU membership .

abbey if you consider pointing out serious anomalies in someone's posts as being anxious for a 'fight' I make no apologies. You really cannot make up things on GN to suit your political bias and expect to get away with it. If you have proof of your allegations please post it.
I'm sorry about your job losses but I fail to see how leaving the EU will solve such problems, indeed it may worsen them as firms wanting access to the EU market will also relocate now.
The EU hasn't asset stripped the UK it has ploughed money into buildings, developments, heritage and the arts. It has provided opportunities for young people and funded them. It has protected our human rights, our environment and our food standards.
As we leave those will all be under threat. Of course there will be those who will make money from the ensuing recession and the suffering of the poorest.

You see this is the problem with a remainers as it generaly appears. Its clear here. I say , as a person who voted leave that leavers ( like me) see the future as out in the world. We are not stuck in the past. Its remainers who are afraid of a future which doesn't include what consider a comfort blanket ( you say it yourselves, you think that the EU has brought unity)

The EU has never brought peace or unity. Its clearly at odds with its own members - Italy, Greece, several E. European countries to name a few.

Its NATO that has kept peace since WW2.

The future is beyond the EU. The EU is economically unstable and probably in the long term unviable. Personally I don't want to see us go down with it.

The world economy is bigger than the EU. Being out there in that is the future.

If I do look to the past for my experience and to learn from it, I know that in fact the EU has taken far more jobs and wealth from this country than it has given. I have personally worked for three firms who all took the EU "schilling" and relocated to countries such as Poland - on grants from the EU. The EU has spent 45 years asset stripping the UK for its own ends. That what I have experienced and lived through.

I want a brighter future and that will not be gained shackled to an outmoded model of economy, political beurocracy and worst, a social engineering experiment that has so clearly gone wrong.

Now you may not agree but that is the way I as a Leaver see it and have experienced it. Don't try to tell me what I think. Thanks.

No trisher, I am not saying anything of the sort. If you look at the site the political bias is clear. Sponsors are socialist liberal, left wing. Its quite clear.

The same applies to the surveys generally.

Now you are obviously the kind of person who is looking for a fight. Well, I have better things to do, so argue with your own fingertips.

Fennel
This is from Factcheck ( a respected site)
Claim: The eu has shrunk as a percentage of the world economy.
Conclusion: That's correct. The eu economy has grown in size, but the rest of the world economy has grown faster.
As I've said before: it will be the euro that topples the eu.
There are 5 countries in the eu who's debt is larger than its output.

Leavers look to the past with a divided Europe and look where that got us.

ps just stirring, but your generalisations don't ring true, abbey

"Leavers look forwards to a new world and to the future. remainers tend to want to stay in the past"
I disagree - leavers look to the past, remainers look to the future.

Ah so having made accusations about political bias you are now saying the results are wrong because the company was paid? It's not in the company's interest to dabble with the results it would mean they would be less valued and have less business.
Leavers live in a lost world where Britain was a world leader in many fields, remainers know that the EU gave the UK more opportunities and wider horizons.

Leavers look forwards to a new world and to the future. remainers tend to want to stay in the past - that which has been somehow assuring ( even if not comfortable) for them in the last forty years.

YouGov works for those who pay for the surveys to be done. He who pays the piper calls the tune on them. Basic rule of such things. They tell you this when you sign up for the role of filling them in and before each survey you are invited to take part in.