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grannyactivist Fri 16-Nov-18 02:30:18

When The Wonderful man and I got married thirty years ago he was a young student, we had three children (from my first marriage) to keep and a mortgage to pay. Times were hard financially and every single penny counted. Our church understood our situation and many people (some we didn't even really know) helped us out with food, clothing for the children and sometimes hard cash. At first it was very hard to accept being a 'charity case', especially as I was always of the opinion that others were worse off than us, but over time I came to see that 'receiving' was just as important a role as giving.

Since that time our finances have improved and I like to 'pay it forward' when I can by helping other individuals out, preferably anonymously, but sometimes that's not possible. If someone just wanted to give you a gift (for no particular reason) how would you feel about accepting it? Would you be offended? Would you be delighted? Would you question their motives?

folly22 Wed 21-Nov-18 15:29:51

If you want to give anonymously, how about the Food Bank?( if you agree with it).

grannyactivist Tue 20-Nov-18 00:24:59

Thank you all for your contributions. Recently one of my clients, who had been rough sleeping for a very long time, was finally housed. His new home is a tiny one-bedroom bungalow, but of course he had nothing at all in the way of furnishings or household items. In just three days he had received a fridge, kettle, crockery, cutlery, saucepans, an armchair, bed, bedding, curtains, side table (all 2nd hand, but in very good condition) and a brand new microwave. Someone has also offered carpeting for the whole place and another couple wanted to gift him a TV, but he declined politely as he knew he would not be able to afford the Licence fee. The couple with the TV worked out the problem and now two people that they know are paying for the TV Licence between them.

This lovely gentleman has been extremely gracious in receiving the gifts he has been given. He has a deep and genuine thankfulness for the kindliness of people who were strangers to him a few months ago and is not too proud to acknowledge that he is currently needy, nor does he have a sense of entitlement that he 'deserves' the help he's been given; I feel I've learnt a lot from him about how to both give and receive with grace.

newgran2019 Mon 19-Nov-18 09:40:50

Although I too was brought up always to 'return' help/gifts, I now think there's an element of pride in that attitude and that we are all put here to help each other, which means some give, some receive, and it's good to do both at the right time. Yes the way in which help is offered is important, but refusing on principle seems rather sad, as it can be hurtful and one day you might really need that help.

Davidhs Sun 18-Nov-18 15:11:16

This is a difficult one, if it's small items , shopping etc given to a friend or relative who you know needs it there shouldn't be a problem. However be careful with larger items especially if they have a sensitive partner, things like your old TV or sofa, some people have excessive pride and will refuse.
I do remember many years ago my Grandparents had a farm with dairy cows and whenever there was a new baby in the village Granny would alway offer the new mum a can of milk each day. It was of course always accepted but it was done in secret, Grandad would not have approved!.

lindadoughty650 Sun 18-Nov-18 14:59:33

Please, lower the pride barrier a little and allow the giver that lovely feeling of being able to share what they have with you. Think what you are giving them as well.

madmum38 Sun 18-Nov-18 12:26:02

I would have been really grateful,still would in fact but won’t be happening

Bibibayliss Sun 18-Nov-18 11:02:02

It depends on which cultural lens you are viewing this from. In Honour/Shame cultures it may be seen as humiliation.

Daisyboots Sun 18-Nov-18 09:17:19

Years ago I was living on the other side of the world with ex husband and children when he lost his job. No social security so my lively oarents sent us some money to be able to pay the mortgage and keep going for a month or so until he got another job. Other than that I have always been a giver when I can. Now I am living comfortably I support people who are raising money for selected charities. A couple of years ago an internet friend who I had met just once was in a state because she was in danger of losing her rented house as she coukdnt affird tge rent that month. I sent her the money never expecting that I would see it again. But a year later she e-mailed me asking for my bank details so she could return the money to me as she had been grateful for my help. We are still good internet friends.

knspol Sat 17-Nov-18 20:48:11

I once gave a Jaeger linen shirt that had never been worn, still had labels on to a friend who was larger than me ( I had lost quite a bit of weight and it didn't fit). I gave it to her in private and didn't mention she was bigger than me just that it didn't fit me and maybe it would fit her - she never spoke to me again and just avoided me in social situations. I wish I'd put it in the charity bag.

sweetcakes Sat 17-Nov-18 18:17:18

Last Christmas there was a knock at the front door and by the time I answered it they had gone but on the doorstep there was a Christmas bag with two presents in it for DH and myself no note and I still don't know who left them, what a wonderful surprise and much appreciated.

Terri823 Sat 17-Nov-18 17:40:05

That is a lovely memory

grandtanteJE65 Sat 17-Nov-18 16:08:31

I think if you explain to the person or people you would like to help that you have been in their place earlier on, and are now in the fortunate position of being able to help others and that you feel it is your simple duty to do so, as the help you received meant so much to you, that would explain your motives for helping and probably make it much easier for them to accept your help.

If they still are uncomfortable accepting help then apologise gracefully and find someone who will be pleased with the offer.

Like you, I would prefer to help anonymously, if the church you are a member of cannot help with passing your contribution on anonymously, perhaps a church run charity, or another charity can and will. Caritas runs schemes to help families in need in most countries, and the Salvation Army will likewise be only to pleased with a donation.

DotMH1901 Sat 17-Nov-18 15:59:39

It would depend on how it was done I suppose - when my children were little we struggled to get to the end of each month sometimes and I have never forgotten the kindness of an old neighbour from where I grew up who handed me an envelope one evening as I left my Mum's and gave me strict instructions not to open it before I got home. When I did I found a £10 note inside with a note saying to treat the kiddies. It was a lovely thought and she never mentioned to anyone else, even my Mum, that she had given me money.

gillyknits Sat 17-Nov-18 15:32:13

I love to give much more than receive but find one neighbour really hard to help because she always feels she has to reciprocate. I have tried to explain that we don’t want anything in return but it falls on deaf ears. Doesn’t put me off though!

sodapop Sat 17-Nov-18 14:55:24

That's a lovely story Justgrandma I'm so sorry your husband died but you have wonderful friends to support you. I hope you are happy in your house now.

jocork Sat 17-Nov-18 14:31:07

My previous church had a system in place where the vicar would pass on gifts anonymously. It may have still been difficult to receive help but at least the recipient knew the giver wanted to keep embarrassment to a minimum and obviously there were no 'strings' as they didn't know who the giver was. I think many churches do a similar thing but I've not had cause to use it recently. I've received an anonymous gift too and felt slightly uncomfortable as I thought I knew who had given it but wasn't sure so couldn't say thank you.
Like many here I find it difficult to ask for help with practical things although I often need it. I'm fine with accepting help from family but I know many others who would help me with things like DIY or gardening but I struggle to ask unless it is completely unavoidable. consequently I have an overgrown garden and a house which needs lots of attention which I am unable and can't afford to give it! I think the saying 'It is better to give than to receive' should be re-phrased 'It is easier to give than to receive'! Pride is a terrible thing sometimes.

Purplepoppies Sat 17-Nov-18 14:30:17

Two years in a row I received a very large Christmas box from a charity. I never found out who put my name forward, but it was wonderful. I cried both times with generosity of it. Whoever put my name forward clearly knew my circumstances at the time.
I have tried to pay it forward whenever I'm able to.
So yes I have been able to accept anonymous gifts. Gifts from people closer to me would probably be more difficult, although I don't think I'd be ungracious.

Carolina55 Sat 17-Nov-18 14:08:21

Grannyactivist what a lovely role you have helping people in need. Last Xmas I decided to replace my 30 yr old good quality settees (don’t know any woman who hasn’t had 2 lots in that time!) although there was nothing wrong with them. Anyway I fancied a change and after asking family & friends if anyone wanted them my daughter advertised them locally free on collection. An old acquaintance got in touch to say her nephew was leaving rehab and had a studio flat with no furniture so I’m pleased to say they went where they were going to be appreciated. I even got a txt back to say how delighted he was with the like-new settees. I like doing kindnesses where I can and always think that someday I might need someone’ Kindness.

Saggi Sat 17-Nov-18 13:39:18

I’d accept it...... but be waiting for the bottom line!

Chicklette Sat 17-Nov-18 13:26:35

When I was a struggling single parent a couple of times I received anonymous cash gifts in the post and the Christmas post box at church. It was such a wonderful surprise and made me cry with happiness, so if my husband and I have extra to give to people in a similar situation we do the same. We have a fun memory of one winter night having to park on the main road and slip and slide silently through the snow to put an envelope through someone’s door.

Lumarei Sat 17-Nov-18 13:07:04

As a single mum many years ago I was given furniture and kitchen items as well as children’s clothes by a friend of my mum and most of it I really didn’t want. However I felt that I could not refuse someone’s kindness or pick and choose. So I accepted graciously.

A few years later I used to read (mainly correspondence) to an amazingly inspirational old lady who had lost most of her sight. She had been one of those ladies who had set up community centres and generally worked for charities but very proud and independent. I learned so much from her and I remember her saying to me one day. “I have been the one giving myself all of my life and now comes the hardest life lesson and I am not yet very good at it - to accept help and worst of all to be treated/talked to like a child.”

Accepting/receiving is far harder but equally important to giving as we have to overcome pride. They are both acts of love.

I am now in a position where I can pay forward but am shy like the OP to help someone personally - so it has to be through charities.

Patticake123 Sat 17-Nov-18 12:30:42

In a similar situation to you, two small children, husband at university, I was at work and had my handbag stolen. I was absolutely distraught, completely overreacted but we really were desperate for money and this was the last straw. To my absolute horror, my colleagues held a whip round and gave me far more money than I’d lost. I was so embarrassed, I attempted to give it back but a very wise older woman said that people had given because they wanted to help me and would be insulted if I rejected their kindness. Roll on many years later and I think of t hat lovely gesture and how it truly helped me but I’m also mindful when I give anyone anything, that it can be very difficult to receive.

MadFerretLady Sat 17-Nov-18 12:12:51

A friend in our church years ago took it upon herself to buy me a new pressure cooker. She judged my old one, which was a present from my mil as inadequate. I really felt judged. She was loads better off than me, but I was happy enough... she just didn’t get my circumstances or my feelings, always trying to improve me! She meant well, but it rankled

Gizmogranny Sat 17-Nov-18 12:00:36

Times were very tough many years ago when my two DC were small and my (now) ex, being an alcoholic, was always in and out of work. Money was always in short supply. He eventually went to a rehabilitation centre, paid for by the welfare system, leaving me and my DC with no money or food. He was there for six weeks and during this time I was visited by the welfare department who took me to a grocery store where I could choose groceries for the week. I can still remember how humiliating it was and how ashamed I felt at the time. I had no choice though and will always be eternally grateful that they were there to help us. I had no family to help so goodness knows what would have become of us. That’s all behind me now and these days I tend to be more of a giver. I’m a very generous person and would rather give things away than sell them. Receiving gifts does make me feel a little uneasy but I would never let the person giving the gift see that.

harrigran Sat 17-Nov-18 11:21:26

I have been poor and struggled, I am more than happy to gift people or pay it forward.