Shame on you Corbyn!

A third thread on the subject?
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SHAME ON Corbyn ,absolutely ,but not for calling her stupid ,she obviously is,Shame on him for abstaining on every single thing the tories pushed through without opposition,Shame on him for calling a motion of no confidence in the PM instead of the a motion against the government.Shame on him for refusing the back up of the rest of the parties to sort out the current mess the tories are hell bent on making of the UK .

Well said, paddyann, and I had been a JC supporter...

To be fair “paddyann* if he had called for a motion against the government it could have led to a general election, he doesn’t want this until after Brexit

He'd never get voted in Anniebach !

God forbid he ever leads this country---you'd see an exodus of the wealthiest business people ( who help keep this country ticking over ) leaving in their droves and we'll be left with the gubbins of society !

Apparently Theresa said her fellow Tories had called her much worse and it hadn't bothered her.
It is all panto but not very funny panto.
Brexiternity and election talk is hiding the real issues affecting real people now.

I wish we could have a really good PM/leadership but I think good people are not choosing to go into politics

As the comedian Geoff Norcott said on Twitter today:
Corbyn is nearly 70, white, voted Leave and has just made a sexist comment so is he now officially a "gammon"?

Such a totally stupid distraction and the idiocy of Bercow doesn't help, as ever.

Bercow is one odious character ! Poison dwarf I call him.

The lip readers are almost entirely unanimous in agreeing he said stupid woman. That's what it looked like. It isn't the worst thing he could have muttered to himself but, as Labour leader insisting he's not a misogynist, he wants a gentler kind of politics without personal insults, he'd have been better advised to fess up. Yes, I mumbled to myself, no I wouldn't have said it publicly, I'm sorry if I offended anyone but - Mrs May leads this government, the worst government, here's a list of all the terrible things etc etc etc.

One of JC's difficulties is what seems to be an inability to face criticism or challenges. He goes into grumpy old man mode (whoops did I say that out loud)

She is a stupid woman just as Trump is a stupid man. What’s sexist about that?

Hear hear Anja - exactly! Stating a fact.

Iam64 ??
Parliamentary protocols demand that members do not personally insult each other.All he had to do was say sorry, I was angry, and that would have been the end of it!
It’s always the lie with a politician that really causes trouble.

Nothing JC said would have 'been the end of it', the tories wanted distraction from the mess they were in, and to delay the Immigration debate.
And remember, he didn't actually say anything, it was whoever took the video off the camera and broadcast it who started it all.

Yes, he did actually say something! Sotto voce perhaps, but he did say it.

Then lied that he had said ‘stupid people’.

You’re right Lemongrove - it’s the lie that compounded the offence. I think William Hague did the same but he apologised.

He has lied many times

This is not as some assume to be a something out of nothing, a Tory rumpus.

The point being missed is female MP's on all sides of the House and to be fair many male MP's have spoken and debated widely on the subject of mysoginy in Parliament.

Many female MP's have spoken of the patronising, sexist behaviour towards them and women in general. Lord knows this year has seen probably the most debate surrounding the attitude towards female politicians I can ever remember.

For the outright hypocrisy of suddenly finding Corbyn is somehow allowed to call the PM a ' Stupid Woman' is not only undermining the work those female and male MP's have been raising in Parliament but shows the shallowness of partisan politics. Shame on them and what respect will the subject of mysoginy receive if they don't do the right thing and state the bleeding obvious?

Before anybody accuses me of partisan politics I would have said the same had a Conservative MP called a female MP a ' Stupid Woman' so I will include the Speaker John Bercow as as being just as ignorant to Parliamentary etiquette as he often crosses the rubicon of Parliamentary behaviour himself. In fact I think Tory Speaker Bercow is the worst of the bunch.

If female MP's especially do not understand that if they can stand back and allow the PM to be called a stupid woman in Parliament without an apology then they have put their cause back and why should anybody feel the need to curb such behaviour on their behalf if they pick and choose who, when and where can be allowed to lie their way out of bad behaviour?

Corbyn has put their cause back by his actions and perversely not so much by what he said as his refusal to accept he did anything wrong. Cowardly or self - serving take yer pick.

So the calling of the PM a ' Stupid Woman' is not the principle problem alone it is the fact the Leader of the Opposition should follow Parliamentary Etiquette and behave himself in a manner that befits his stature and most certainly not lie to Parliament but that point eludes those who on another day, another individual would be saying the opposite than they are now.

Yes I have posted twice but like the copious amount of Brexit threads there is more than one ruddy thread.

Talk about a fuss about nothing
Nothing at all sexist about saying stupid woman ( it’s a fact) I bet every one of us have said stupid man at some time or other I know i have I m no great fan of Corbyns but he’s dammed whatever he does or says Parliament was like an idiots market yesterday with her screaming like a banshee and a,l the noises from the baying crowd Not an ounce of decorum between the lot of them and Bercow is an awful man
Bloody ridiculous the world falling to pieces and that’s all they can worry about I hold my head in complete despair

But BlueBelle he was going to bring kinder politics when he became leader

My issue with Jeremy Corben is not that he said "stupid woman". but that he lied and denied that he had said it. Other M.Ps in the past have resigned for lying in Parliament, e.g Profumo.

I agree maytime it's the lie that is the issue here. If he had just admitted what he said it would all have been over in no time. As for the Squeaker well .............

BlueBelle....it matters because it’s against Parliaments own rules.
Secondly, lying to the House definitely matters.