ISIS girl

I think she should be allowed back, but closely watched. It has become a matter of concern that the security services are stretched extremely thinly at the present, watching not only returning jihadis but resident ‘persons of interest’. If this girl is let back in, there will be a clamour for others to come (there already is) and they will all have to be ‘closely watched’. Where do you draw the line?

Perhaps try Google nicenanny?
I think he’s Dutch. Fought for ISIL. I don’t know whether or not he is still alive.

Well it’s hardly rocket science to find out who the father is - it’s in all the newspapers. He’s s Dutch born convert who apparently has surrender to the Syrian Army. And you can sign all the petitions you want but the legal position remains as it is - you know that pesky rule of law that diffentiates us from things like IS

I would like to know who the father of this baby is? An ISIS fighter,where is he, is he alive or dead. No she shouldn't be let back into the UK. Any petition to stop her returning I would gladly sign.

Now it’s all been publicized it is inevitable that she will be let in, the bleeding heart liberals will see to that. So I guess she will be detained, due process of law started and the baby put into care.
Judging by her attitude in the reports she is a major risk and probably will remain so, if she was repentant it might be different

I do not approve of any of the other people who went off to join / support Daesh coming back to the UK either.

If they are inprisoned I would worry about who they were mixing with as I have read that a lot of “radicalisation” occurs within the prison system.

Why should she be a “special case” because she is pregnant and female.

Those three girls took time to plan their journey and knew what they were doing. It has been repeatedly reported that they were all intelligent girls.

It seems the US plans to send British jihadists to Guantanamo Bay and Washington is fed up with UK’s soft approach to dealing with returning terrorists.

THE United States is planning to send British Isil fighters to Guantánamo Bay amid frustration at the UK’s failure to take responsibility for its homegrown terrorists.

We are such a soft touch it seems. All this PC nonsense while Finsbury Park’s finest spouted their hate rants against us. If there is no strong deterrent here no wonder they get away with it all. Their belief in barbaric practices would take us back to medieval times. Sharia Law. Full burka dress. I’m sick of it. France and Denmark have a far more robust attitude to these radicals. We are hand-wringing whilst they sneer at us.

Anja, aged 19, expecting her third baby with her first 2 having died from a combination of lack of basic medicine and malnutrition, I have compassion for her on that basis.
Further up the thread I was howled down for expressing that.

Having had time to think about the situation, I remain deeply sympathetic for her personal circumstances. I think that we need to take into account how young she and her friends were when they went to Syria - and how young she still is.

We do not know how far her continual defence and acceptance of ISIS is self protection, She and her unborn child may be in danger in a refugee camp, which contains many ISIS families if she said anything else. Once out of Syria and away from ISIS, she may say something else.

However, if she returns home, she must face the full rigour of the law and serve any prison sentence appropriate. If she continues to hold extremist views, then, even on release, it must be under the most stringent conditions.

Mmmm I find all this she’s a victim quite paternalistic and mysogynistic. Don’t deny her agency. She and the others planned their escape to Syria. They have all been very active on social media since and she shows no remorse.

Please stop pretending woman are not capable of evil they really are

Whoops - subject to psychiatric and psychological testing. Any mental health or personality problems that contributed to her decision at 15 to join the caliphate must have been compounded by her experiences in Syria. look what happened to Patty Hurst and she didn’t join that terrorist group voluntarily, she was kidnapped and brainwashed.

I posted earlier that if she arrives in the uk she’ll be arrested. I expect and hope she will then be subject to

When fleeing the fighting she lost her 1 year old daughter and three month baby to malnutrition and illness I’ve just read in a Guardian briefing.

She must be very tired, and confused. I really don’t know what to think.,

She's a UK citizen and does not have dual nationality so we cannot take away her citizenship. If she had dual nationality I think the UK could do that as she would not be stateless.

I didn't realise she is 9 months pregnant; she probably can't travel anyway and is better where she is for the time being whilst decisions are made. She will not be the only woman with a child in the same position.

Mysogynistic! Lynch mobs? All labels that actually don’t exist in the vast majority of gransnet or RL.

Get a grip

Women are capable of evil too!

That’s not mysogyny that’s fact.

To deny that is just silly

psycho not socio

No, absolutely not. Not a shred of remorse from her.

The once vast, self-proclaimed caliphate of Islamic State has been reduced to its final square kilometre. But while there will be much toasting of the demise of Isil’s territorial ambitions, the fallout from the conflict persists. the al-Hol refugee camp doubles as a detention centre for foreign fighters. British wives and children of Isil fighters are stuck in legal limbo at the camp while the UK government contemplates whether and how to repatriate them.

Countries that are Islamic do not all have radical governments and would not welcome political dissidents any more than non Islamic countries.

Are we angry, in principle, at all people who dehumanise and whip up hate against particular groups based on religion/sect/race etc. or are some OK?

Normally I would say let her back. She was a child when she went and she is pregnant now.

Then I watched an interview on TV with her. I was horrified. She regrets ‘nothing’ and that includes two lost babies. She wasn’t shocked by heads of prisoners she saw in bins.

She sounded like a sociopath.

I cannot understand why they are making this such a big news story. I for one am not happy with the way she makes me feel. As has been said alraedy i feel i should forgive BUT i find i have not one ounce of understanding for the life she has chosen. Made her bed, let her lie in it. Mainly because she still wants the life she has made for herself and has no regrets so why should I say come back take what you want! Why is this being given so much news space!

If you have no sympathy for Nazanin you are lost. I can’t comment on what other posters said if they did say that as new here.

No! I don't think that she should be allowed to come back to the UK, nor should anyone who went out to Syria to support ISIS.
This woman has stated that she was in full agreement with the barbaric atrocities carried out in the name of her religion.
There are plenty of Muslim countries where she could settle but I doubt even they would want this vile creature.

I think she made a massive mistake. Having made it , she then dug herself in further. The Times must be laughing all the way to the bank.

" The great British public " ....who are they?

And I call that misogyny