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AlieOxon Thu 14-Feb-19 10:56:03

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_strike_for_climate

www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/feb/13/school-climate-strike-childrens-brave-stand-has-our-support

I just saw the title here on Victoria Derbyshire's morning program, held up by a schoolchild....

The thread on Insects has brought up a lot of interesting comments - but there is action on climate going on all over the world, by the young people who it will impact on most!
I have grandchildren and greatgrandchildren and I now feel I must be more active in at least talking about this.

I'm involved in an envirnmental group locally but will put more energy in and see what other groups I can support.

We only have one planet to live on.

Ilovecheese Sun 17-Feb-19 17:17:24

Our existing nuclear plants are nearing the end of their useful life. The Government wanted the Chinese to build a new one but they have pulled out because it was not cost effective for them, even with the promise of a high price for each unit once it was up and running.

Whether or not the energy is "clean" energy, it is still too expensive to be a viable option.

We must find another way.

Tillybelle Sun 17-Feb-19 17:20:28

Sorry but I've just added up - roughly - all the amounts then the %s of the types of energy the Gridwatch Uk page shows and they come to, in the first example far more than the total shown and in the %s to way over 100% of the power being used. How does this work?

janeainsworth Sun 17-Feb-19 17:42:36

Tillybelle I think demand and output are not the same.
Excess energy can be produced from wind and solar and stored on the grid.

AlieOxon Sun 17-Feb-19 18:14:58

Questions and ?Answers
earthscience.stackexchange.com/questions/7316/why-is-the-temperature-still-rising/7317

Tillybelle Sun 17-Feb-19 18:25:50

janeainsworth. Thanks! smile

AlieOxon Mon 18-Feb-19 19:35:58

"As 2018 came to a close, urgency to tackle climate change intensified.
The year was marked by the publication of a landmark scientific report from the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which warned that the world has 12 years to nearly halve greenhouse gas emissions in order to avoid the worst impacts of climate change.
In the UK, ongoing uncertainty over Brexit leaves many unanswered questions over the future of environmental regulation. While across the world people are rising up to demand radical climate action, governments have been accused of failing to “deliver what the world needs”.

Governments are aware..... but.....

Jalima1108 Mon 18-Feb-19 19:44:20

Governments are aware..... but.....

are they producing a lot of hot air?

AlieOxon Tue 19-Feb-19 10:15:25

That's certainly my impression!

AlieOxon Tue 19-Feb-19 10:19:20

They wouldn't want to alienate the business world of course....

"Each and every day CEOs across the world face numerous decisions, and sustainability is just one in a long list of priorities. Few will simply admit that they don’t care, although it is clear from interviews conducted with them that many will only go as far as the customers demand, or only make environmentally positive decisions if they also reduce costs." (The Guardian)

paddyann Tue 19-Feb-19 13:43:28

Whave the capability to be self sufficient in renewable energyWind and water in abundance here,Sadly because so little of our leislative powers AND income are devolved we have to abide by WM rules.Any funding for renewable energy has been cut and cut again by the tory government of England(We didn't vote tory nor have we since the mid 50's) Is the westminster government blinkered about GW or do they prefer to give the money available to their chums for fracking etc ? I'll leave it up to you to decide .OUR government is firmly behind RE

AlieOxon Tue 19-Feb-19 19:50:09

Since fashion is in the news today:

"fast fashion" - a major contributor to greenhouse gases, water pollution, air pollution and over-use of water....

www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-47282136

AlieOxon Fri 22-Feb-19 10:04:47

STOP PRESS
Victoria Derbyshire program now 10am is doing about how and where clothes come from and what they cost the planet....

annodomini Fri 22-Feb-19 10:34:35

I'll see if I can get that on catch-up, Alie. I think my GD will be interested in the subject as she did a degree in textile technology.

AlieOxon Fri 22-Feb-19 11:27:25

Hi anno.
That was quite interesting - it's in the last 15 minutes of the programme. and it goes on, I gather each Friday, for a month.

3000 litres of water to make a cheap Tshirt?
And some clothing may go to 5 countries on the way....

Also, I am not being very environmentally friendly, as I have developed a habit of buying clothes and not wearing them, not liking them and getting rid of them!

AlieOxon Fri 22-Feb-19 12:37:48

NOW (12.39) on freeview 232 - the Environmental Audit committee is having discussions on planetary health, has been talking about insects - and sustainability - no idea what next....

AlieOxon Mon 25-Feb-19 08:44:16

Today: www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-47330830
OMG what next?

PamelaJ1 Mon 25-Feb-19 10:13:24

I’ve just caught up with the Victoria Derbyshire programme.
If these supposedly intelligent students are representative of the knowledge that young people have about pollution then we should be applauding those young students who were part of the demonstration.

AlieOxon Mon 25-Feb-19 10:45:05

So have I Pam. It's good that this is on though. The main session seems to be on a Friday with a little bit every day.
There is a suddenly lot more about the environment in the news recently (when everything else isn't pushed out by the Oscars)
There's been a demo by Greenpeace about plastic bottles....
well, I've just seen them on TV carrying a huge plastic bottle made of discarded bottles - but can I find it online?
Anyone find a link?

AlieOxon Mon 25-Feb-19 12:08:47

Greenpeace demo: www.standard.co.uk/futurelondon/theplasticfreeproject/greenpeace-single-use-plastic-michael-gove-recycling-a4075611.html

I was beginning to think I imagined it!