A dreadful event in Christchurch

It's beyond my understanding that anyone can think it's a good thing to kill someone for being different to themselves. Humans can be so inhumane. I'm so sad for everyone that has been affected by this awful incident.

Thank you maryeliza.

How words are used actually matters if the aim is adult logical discourse.

Well that has sounded the death knell for opinion forums all over the world, hasn't it?

Perhaps you'll write a tome and tell us just how we can word the sentences we use Maryeliza.

Most of us are old enough to appreciate the word 'mad' is not offensive unless someone picks up on it and scolds another for using it.

That was inappropriate admonition too, remember. PC guilt tripping is rife. (We all have to feel awful about ourselves, always, and uber-aware that someone, somewhere will be offended!)

Back to the topic - there can be no excuse for murder. It's a form of madness by the perpetrator to believe such despicable acts can ever be justified.

So very sad. My thoughts are with the families of those innocent people that have been killed and injured. What is this world coming to!

Criticising the use of the word ‘madman’ is not nitpicking. There are occasional acts of violence which are the result of severe mental illness ( often the physical harm is to the poor person themselves) but terrorist acts like this are that - terrorist acts. This particular one was well planned and very successful - although could have been more successful if the car bombs had exploded. Characterising it as madness is nonsense. How words are used actually matters if the aim is adult logical discourse. And how childish and nasty is it to characterise janea’s post as virtue signalling/ PC.

NANA WILSON is in Christchurch x

there are many here who are more concerned in what's written or worded than being interested in the subject being discussed

True, EllanVannin.

It's as rude and unnecessary as correcting grammar. It's a sort of virtue signalling, isn't it?

PC in the extreme.

Lots of things are 'mad'.

Dragonfly I’m sorry if you thought I was squabbling. I agree that this is far too serious an event to nitpick about.
But I was trying to address the suggestion made by EV that this atrocity was the work of “a madman”.
It wasn’t. It was an orchestrated attack by evil people who are probably quite sane but who subscribe to far-right ideology. We are lucky that thanks to our security and intelligence services, similar things haven’t happened here in the U.K.

Awful. Why? What has been achieved?

I wonder if these murderers NEED the internet, need the publicity? If their atrocities were reported in a low key manner (but with full investigation by the appropriate authorities) would they bother?

Sigh. I guess those with murder and hatred in their hearts don't give a damn about the reaction of others though. Even condemnation doesn't affect them.

Dragonfly believe you me there are many here who are more concerned in what's written or worded than being interested in the subject being discussed.
I'm appalled at them too. They disgust me.

One or two posters have already expressed disgust at those whose aim it is is to disrupt and cause unpleasantness.
Sadly this world has become a hotbed for troublesome people online. They certainly wouldn't say the same face to face.

I understand, Ellan we are all dreadfully upset. I have just been watching the news and have had to switch it off. So very sad.

I can't believe that there is arguing on this thread. Shame on you.

So sorry Megan. I'm so used to being attacked that I expect a volley of posters all joining in.x

I cannot believe what I am reading on this thread - nitpicking about terms of address, where this is posted etc. My goodness the evilness of these acts are what is important not how the perpetrators are addressed.
I feel immense sadness for the people in Christchurch and our thoughts should be with them. We should not be squabbling amongst ourselves about unimportant details. You should be ashamed!!!

I was agreeing with you.

Yes I know Ellan I wasn't attacking you at all!! Goodness, I was saying I understand what you were saying. For god's sake!

Why are you all so quick at finding fault ?? It's horrible.Nasty

there are dozens of words to describe this bl***y idiot, madman, crackpot, terrorist, wicked etc .......

Megan it was Janeainsworth who was nasty----attack her !!
She purposely used what I'd originally said, against me !

sorry Ellan

We know what you meant Ellen, why do people interpret things just to pick an argument.

This is a dreadful event, and everyone is horrified, every single one of us ......

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NannyC2 No, don't blame the devil, or the end time, or some vague concept of ultimate evil. Blame PEOPLE - bigotted, selfish, violent people who believe that destroying those who are different from them will make the world a better place. The exact opposite is true. For every "different" person destroyed, three more, like the heads of the hydra, will take their place to avenge them and destroy their murderers, plus as many others as their guns and bombs reach. Then more and more avengers arise to avenge those victims, until there will be no-one left on earth.

It is appalling and probably one of the last places in the world that I would have imagined this happening. Is nowhere safe anymore?

Bluebell, of course it did not 'annoy' me- just surprised.