a man’s internal feeling that he is a woman has no basis in material reality?

Women have faught for sex protections for women

If women dont exist, as a sex, the laws and spaces that protect us dont either.

E.g. Last summer a woman I work with had to fight for a minor uniform adjustment to allow her to work whilst managing menopause symptoms.

If menopause is now nothing to do with sex/being female/being a woman. And becomes just something that happens to "persons with menopause". It gets 10× harder that people who are descriminated against for reasons like that!

Yes, I see that I haven't explained very well.

Alexa, sex descrimination goes sonewhat beyond bosoms and how you look in clothes

Notanan, your employer should have solicited opinions on both sex, and gender identity.

Some individual with a female looking bosom and so on could be the same individual who identifies themself with masculine gender. I cannot quite imagine why they would want to but it's possible. On neither count should they be discriminated against. Not in most work places,anyway, however if they were modelling clothing they may be required to model clothes and behave according to a gender stereotype. So that would be a reserved occupation with respect to gender bias.

What happens to legal recourse for sex descrimination if sex doesnt exist.

My employer sent out a staff satisfaction survey and asked for all protected characteristics EXCEPT sex. Instead replacing it with "gender identity".

They are not even auditing for sex variations. If disabled or black people have a poorer experience in our workplace, that rightly matters.

But if women are experiencing unfairness, that is not even being monitored!

I forgot that one, Notanan. I suppose a male rape victim might also prefer a female doctor to examine him.

Uh huh. Not someone with a penis.

Don’t worry about transgender, worry about freedom of speech which is increasingly being stifled by accusations of , offence, prejudice etc .
The rights of any person should never be unequal to another, but it seems to me we are going down a road of ‘ intolerance ‘ to tolerance ie, if some people are ignorant of or unsure or unaware of how to address another person by their preferred or correct tile then we have reached a very dangerous place indeed! We need to lighten up with each other, surely a simple apology if I ‘miss monickered’ you should be sufficient.

I forgot that one, Notanan. I suppose a male rape victim might also prefer a female doctor to examine him.

And don’t let’s even start on women’s sport???

Why not Chewbacca?

Respecting others religions does not = declaring the existance of their god(s) and declaring that all of their beliefs are facts

But apparently, being respectful of trans people = declaring biology non existant and non important, and everyone redefining "women" as anyone who feels femme (which actually excludes many females)

Dear god Alexa toilets are not the only issue. One of MANY is that female rape victims should be able to request someone of the female SEX to do their invasive exams and proceedures. How "femme" or girlie they feel is irrelevant. What matters is their SEX

You're not on your own there Fennel. I've read But I can't respect that trans people feel that they are not their biological sex, whilst still believing myself that a person can't change biological sex several times and I still don't understand what's being said.

Most people's biological sex is easily recognisable. Gender is is a loosely defined set of behaviours assigned by society.

It's good that most professions and trades are now
gender-neutral.

It would be good if whoever wanted to do so could behave as they like(within decency and legality) without reference to their sex organs.

Public toilets are the only difficulty, as the sex organs are so close to the organs of elimination which are generally held to be undignified.

Notanan please explain:
'But I cant respect that trans people feel that they are not their biological sex, whilst still believing myself that a person cant change biological sex'.
I don't understand.

I can respect that religous people believe in god, whilst still saying I dont believe in god myself.

But I cant respect that trans people feel that they are not their biological sex, whilst still believing myself that a person cant change biological sex

Why the difference?

Reading the link suggests she did not say what her employers say she said

You stated that a man’s internal feeling that he is a woman has no basis in material reality. A lot of people would find that offensive and exclusionary.

That is entirely their interpretation of her very carefully worded statement

All but a very few of us are born with a clear physical gender. Most of us have minds of the same gender as our bodies, but being born with a differently gendered mind cannot change the biological gender of their bodies.

Transgender people should be accepted for who they are - people whose mind and body are different genders and each part should wherever possible be treated the gender it is. That means biologically gendered men should not, as a general rule use women's loos, changing rooms or other areas where women are tending to or displaying their bodies. The same applies to transgender women.

To me that shows no disrespect at all. Minds are free to be whatever they want but biology is fixed by chromosomes.

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