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Chestnut Fri 25-Oct-19 15:56:47

When did it become law that bikes and cars could now use pavements rather than the road?
Cyclists are breaking the law when they cycle on pavements but this is impossible to enforce since they shoot all over the place and are unidentifiable.

CYCLING ON THE FOOTWAY (PAVEMENT) IS AN OFFENCE under Section 72 of the Highways Act 1835 as amended by Section 85 (1) of the Local Government Act 1888.
The Road Traffic Act 1991 makes the two most serious cycling offences parallel to those of dangerous and careless driving.
The maximum fines are currently £2,500 for dangerous cycling and £1,000 for careless cycling.

Liz46 Fri 25-Oct-19 15:50:17

We have a grass verge outside our house which we try to keep in good condition so find it rather annoying when people park on it and make long grooves.

M0nica Fri 25-Oct-19 15:34:35

In France, when residential roads are very narrow they paint a line on the pavement that cars can park up to, but still leave enough space for pedestrians, pushchairs, wheelchairs etc between car and adjacent houses.

In DS's road where there is a wide grass verge and a wide pavement drivers, including us, often park with two wheels on the grass, but well away from pedestrians etc walking on the pavement area.

wildswan16 Fri 25-Oct-19 15:31:53

Pavement parking really annoys me - apart from being inconvenient to pedestrians, it breaks up the paving slabs making it more dangerous and costing the Council thousands of pounds to repair.

I was once "tooted" at because I had the nerve to be standing on the pavement where a driver wanted to pull in to park his car. I'm afraid I just stood my ground and glared at him. After a short stand-off he drove off in the huff.

Sussexborn Fri 25-Oct-19 15:08:12

The road we live in sometimes looks like a ramshackle car park, especially at weekends! When houses were built in the early part of the 20th century most families probably didn’t have one car and now it’s not unusual to have one vehicle for each family member.

OH does wonder what happens if an ambulance or fire engine is needed for a dire emergency as some people park opposite each other and he struggles to get our normal sized saloon car through.

There are several large green areas on this estate but whenever it’s suggested they are used to provide more parking those overlooking the sites make major protests and I can understand that people coming and going all day and night be a noise nuisance and not such a pleasant outlook.

There are also several semi derelict garage blocks. The council quietly sold off one and the purchaser applied to build three private houses which would overlook people’s back gardens and windows. Huge protests erupted. Eventually two bungalows were allowed and all has quietened down - until the council try once again I guess. I think it’s the sneakiness that annoys more than anything.

Alima Fri 25-Oct-19 14:40:55

I do thoroughly agree that pavements are for people though sometimes it doesn’t seem to be so. We don’t get too many cyclists on the pavements locally, mostly just the students from the comprehensive school. When an adult approaches on a bike on the pavement I tend to stand my ground so they either go onto the road or cross to the other pavement. The big bugbear around here is blooming cars parked all over the pavements without a thought for pedestrians. I was going to complain to the local council but I don’t think there’s much they could do. I read somewhere that the only place in England where it is illegal to park on the pavement is in London. You would think there’s the odd by-law in place somewhere else.

Yehbutnobut Fri 25-Oct-19 14:14:39

I have no issues with bikes using pavements if they ride slowly and politely. I would certainly be cross if told to get out of the way or swooped upon at speed. The roads are very dangerous and I had many a near miss in my bike riding days thanks to some motorists.

Car parked on pavements are a menace and it ought to be clamped down on

Jane10 Fri 25-Oct-19 14:14:14

It really is infuriating. If any cyclist on the pavement shouts at me to get out of the way I stand still where I am so they have to stop. Then a raised eyebrow seems to do the trick. This is all more effective on days I have my stick with me!
Actually I'm sick of cyclists being somehow sacrosanct. Any damn fool can buy a bike and cycle on the busiest of roads straightaway causing all sorts of problems in traffic. If, God forbid, there are accidents it's always the motorists fault never a cyclist who misjudged timing etc. I've been carved up by cyclists on the pavement and the road and would love to have taken a registration number from them but no chance. They are anonymous and unregulated. ?

Dee1012 Fri 25-Oct-19 13:44:58

This is an issue that absolutely infuriates me.
My son has to use two crutches to walk and needs a little more space...there are street's in my area so full of car's half on / half off the pavement, he literally has to walk in the road, likewise wheelchair users and anyone with a pram.
The ignorance and entitlement of the driver's astonishes me.

Doodle Fri 25-Oct-19 13:39:10

Does anyone else live in an area where they have to dodge round people on bikes or walk in the road to pass cars parked on the pavement?
DH and I walk a lot and are often frightened when a cyclist suddenly swoops past us or rides up behind us and shouts at us to get out of the way. When did it become law that bikes and cars could now use pavements rather than the road?