Prince Andrew

Yes, I have read the thread and contributed.

The age of consent in the US is not 18, it is between 16-18 depending upon which state you are in. I cannot u derstand people on this thread that do not check their facts. The girl in question in the interview with PA was 17, above the age of consent in that state.

No other girls have come forward and shouted regarding PA to my knowledge. I do believe they have regarding a high profile lawyer in the US who is now suing the girl/s.

His Navy pension at £20,000 p.a. Wouldn’t keep PA in cuff links!
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The 249K came from the Queens private income. Further monies came from the public purse when he carried out duties for the Monarchy including those of accompanying businessman overseas including to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

As for being friends with a child abuser, yes he is guilty of being a very stupid man but so far nothing more.

Sorry Callistemon
He is supported by the Queen from her private income, plus his Navy pension.

Possibly, but he may have named many names under oath.

Maybe he's facing his justice elsewhere Callistemon

Coolico

He has been receiving £249,000 per year plus all the security and travel paid for by Tax payers
I can't call that nothing.

And as for the rest of your comment.....he was known to be very good friends with a convicted child abuser......it's not about one girl

It's a pity Epstein is not here to face justice.

World media and FBI are going to do a great deal of investigative work on PA finances. Sleazy brown envelopes and dodgy dealings will no doubt be uncovered in the process and I would not be surprised if this uncovered much money lost to the uk. Its a can of stinking worms which has just been opened, the tip of the iceberg

Does it matter whether Epstein hanged himself or was murdered when looking at the crimes involved and their ramifications.
As for VR being 17, I know many girls are not exactly “children” at 17, but the bottom line is that in the US she was below the age of consent (18) and sex with a minor is de facto rape. Of course teenage sex is common enough, but the law was so framed to punish cases of an adult taking sexual advantage of a minor.
Some states set a minimum age difference for the defence to be applicable, so that e.g. if the “adult” is only 3 years or less older than the”minor” no crime has been committed or the penalty is less severe. This is sometimes referred to as a “Romeo and Juliet” case.

He said nothing happened annie but yes others have said he had massages

Did he say he was offered massages Callistemon ?

I believe the guards had naps - they were paid to and there’s a nice sum waiting for them in the Cayman Islands when they get out ( except they’ll probably meet a murky end sometime)

If nothing else, he is guilty of remaining a loyal friend to a convicted paedophile, CoolioC.

Staying at houses with young teenage girls flitting around and being offered 'massages' by these girls, pictures of young girls on the walls etc, surely would arise suspicion in even someone who is very stupid?

Surely anyone with a jot of decency would distance themselves from such a friend, not stay with them, accept money from them ?

Cool have you read the thread?

I think Epstein was murdered by people with a lot to lose. I don't buy the guards having naps scenario.

He's managing very well, then, on £20,000 a year RN pension.

Not every RN pensioner can afford to pay £5,000 for a helicopter ride to a golf outing.

I still fail to see what he is guilty of except being a blithering idiot. The girl was 17. He is a Prince. Maybe he was used by Epstein etc to procure girls/women with his title and possibly unknowingly. Who knows.

He is an idiot. He doesn’t receive money from the public purse except for his pension from the Navy to which he is entitled.

I rate being "possibly a Nazi sympathiser" as very bad and sordid, actually, Grammaretto.

Edward didn't, afaik, do anything as sordid as PA. He abdicated and married a woman twice divorced. He was possibly a Nazi sympathiser.

I think PA condemned himself this time the moment he opened his mouth and told E Maitlis silly stories about Pizza Express, sweating or not, selective memory loss (as a result of the Falklands) and wished he hadn't been such a good friend of JE.

Princess Diana lost it Anniebach
Maybe one born Royal doesn’t lose it though?

He will not lose the HRH, Edward didn’t lose it but Wallis was not given it.

I wish he could be stripped of his HRH title Maw He was described as having been effectively “de-Royalled” on today’s Radio 4World at One where the opinion was given that “the foreseeable future” means for ever

I too read by a royal biographer that this might be ‘early retirement’ for PA.

He really isn’t a popular Royal is he? Good job his mummy loves him (the best apparently).

I wonder how he could possibly have hung himself.
Several newspapers showed and described the kind of cell JE was being kept in.
Bed, stool and desk made of solid concrete.
Tiny TV recessed into concrete wall and covered with unbreakable 'glass' and toilet washbasin and mirror constructed all in one unit out of stainless steel.
He himself wore a paper suit which could not bear the weight of a body hanging from it and bed cover likewise.
Some propose that he was murdered. We await the facts...or not.
It's a cat's cradle of a mess which will take some time to unpick.

Will he lose his HRH like his wife did?