I feel sorry for Prince Harry

Just a thought, but what would have happened if they never actually read the tabloids?

What do the tea cake munchers mean? A red head? Somebody with German/Russian heritage?

Puzzling Sparkii, I was just so surprised, very loud voices also.

I am off to continue my “mooching” not a lot in the shops I have looked in so far, I guess my bank balance is safe

Good for you Ladyluck & exactly , humans are all much of a muchness where or whoever they may be,
(With the exception of those who live in such dire circumstances & or in dreadful parts of the world even now in 2020 .)
Will it ever change in our lifetime

Jis your post beautifully illustrated the point I was making about haters. Thank you so much

Bridgeit not inviting some relatives yes, only inviting one !

GrannyGravy sorry don’t know what an AS is, but did the partners of your ASs who didn’t invite family invite their
families ?

What are “teacake munchers”??

Is suziewoozie really meggieweggie?

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Jane10 11:48

Nothing would have changed. The press are an excuse. They want out of this stuffy life. They (or possibly just M) want to be free to do as they choose. Not sure how that works as they will still be fodder for the paparazzi. I think back to Britney Spears being hounded continually, even when she had a breakdown and walked into a hairdresser’s and shaved her head. That’s the US. Whether there will be that level of interest in them over there I don’t know. Regardless, time will tell and as long as they aren’t sponging off racist, right wing Britain I doubt anyone cares.

No I’m her grannie

She knows her family Anniebach who are we to say , it’s not our business (not even though we pay for it)
Even if she is what some think she is, it’s still none of our business regarding the family dynamics.. .... unless heard from the horse’s mouth it’s all speculation, rumourmongering, & selling papers. They will be happy or not or a bit of both .... just like the rest of us.....

I think that one of the problems is that Meghan's style of behaviour is distinctly trans-Atlantic and that we stiff-upper-lip Brits tend to interpret that in a negative way. Her relationship with the media before her marriage reflects that of an American woman who is a well-known actress in her own country. I think we need to be a little more flexible in our thinking.

It was inevitable that fitting in with the RF (who are stiff-upper-lip incarnate) was going to be very challenging. On top of this she has been subjected to media harrassment and endless criticism.

She now has a child to consider, and both she and Harry appear to be putting this responsibility first. Quite rightly. They do not want the child brought up by unhappy parents; nor do they want him subjected to the negative influences of RF upbringing and attitudes. That is their choice as responsible parents.

Anyone who rejects the British icon of the RF is going to get it in the neck, and the media will not care whether they are dealing in facts or not (we have seen from annodominis link the dubious nature of many of these facts) - they are just happy for mud to stick and sit back and watch their sales rise.

I hope that we can see through all this and treat this couple with consideration.

I know they have lots of money (in Meghan's case hard-earned) but they are still subject to normal human feelings and people should have the grace to recognise that, rather than using this young family as an target upon which to vent their underlying anger about inequality.

I'm surprised no one has commented on the huge amount of publicity this supposedly 'publicity shy' couple have brought upon themselves. They have gone about this in a way that encouraged maximum media coverage in the same way as they did over Archie's birth.
If they'd gone to the Q and thrashed it all out privately, she could have issued her statement about a period of transition, and they could have crept quietly back to Canada.
Yes, I'm sorry for Harry, but he should have taken advice and followed it if he wanted to stay out of the limelight. Its another case of the RF giving no guidance.

EXD1938 How can you say it’s another example of the RF giving no guidance? It’s been well documented that the Queen asked them to delay the announcement but they went ahead anyway. This transition that is happening now in the spotlight could then have been going on behind the scenes.

I believe it’s maybe that M had had enough and point blank did not want anymore engagements or stuffy RF life whilst the wheels were in motion behind the scenes and told Harry “I’m off, no more”.

How many of us remember Grace Kelly?
A very successful Hollywood actress who married Prince Rainier of Monaco. I remember her as very beautiful and very dignified, she gave everything up I think and fitted into her new life seamlessly.

I think you will find that life has moved on a bit since Grace Kelly!!

Could we clear one thing up? They are going to Canada. NOT the US. North American includes Canada.

ExD1938 - I suspect that trying to deal with it privately was getting them nowhere. Look at the RF when Diana died - it was like shifting a mountain to get them to respond humanely.

tickingbird Saying that Meghan said "I'm off - no more" is pure speculation; and negative speculation at that. It is exactly this sort of comment that has pushed them into a corner.

They courted the press.

The announcement that would be no announcement, caused
the press to speculate. Then came the phone call to the press
to go to Windsor for the announcement which wasn’t going
to take place.

The Christening, Godparents not to be named, caused the press to speculate, who can remember the Godparents of
William and Kate’s children ?

The first public appearance of the baby, again the press summoned to Windsor to photograph a baby hidden under a hat and shawl. William and Kate paused for a few minutes outside the hospital.

The second photograph of the baby ? A toe.

They played games , if they had followed the rest of the royals
they wouldn’t have had the same press attention .

GagaJo Canada, US - stop being so pedantic , facts, facts, facts. Who needs ‘em? Certainly not the Meghan haters on GN. Facts only spoil s good rant and interrupt the intellectual discourse.

Luckygirl ExD said H should have gone to Q privately and had a deal thrashed out. She then went on to say H should have listened to advice and that yet again, the RF offered no guidance. My point is the Q did advise and asked him to wait before announcing it. You can’t have it both ways and there are some on here who want exactly that.

I said “I believe that M said I’m off - no more”. Yes speculation on my part as are most of the comments on these threads. It certainly didn’t push them into any corner, they had already made their decision. You need to think before replying as it doesn’t make sense as you seem to be saying these discussions have pushed them into a corner. These discussions are AFTER their decision.

HOLD ANYMORE DISCUSSIONS FOLKS - suziewoozie has all the facts and she’s an intellectual.

I think that any modern independent woman, not bred into the RF, would find difficulty fitting into the straightjacket expected of her.
I find it more odd that Catherine ( revered on here ) has done so.

I am totally disillusioned with her, so much so that I can't bear to look at her on the T.V. Harry I feel sorry for and wonder how long it will be before he rue's the day he ever met her.
To use a phrase that the "woke" people use, she totally disrespected the Queen and by that token has totally disrespected all of us in the U.K.
It is only a matter of time before the Duke of Cambridge becomes the Prince of Wales. Will he allow Harry such a large slice of the profits from the Duchy ?

Grace Kelly also had to pay a bride price to marry into royalty.

Such a humiliating and antiquated practice.