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I feel sorry for Prince Harry

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Artdecogran Sun 12-Jan-20 12:00:22

After looking at all the news reports etc I have come to the conclusion that Harry is really stuck in the middle of his wife and the RF. Meghan married Harry very quickly, which can cause difficulties in ‘normal’ families, but with the emotionally constipated RF it was a disaster waiting to happen. If someone like Diana, who had experience of royalty couldn’t cope with the way of life or the hold the courtiers have over proceedings, how could a feisty American. Catherine has only managed it because she and William took a very long time to get her settled into the RF.
Moving to a new country, getting married, having a baby and trying to fit into the RF is a heavy burden, and then being bullied completely by the press is enough to make anyone crack. The daily mail is still dredging up anyone they can to slate Meghan and Harry.
Harry is trying to protect his wife, and according to recent reports, has tried to initiate changes but has been rebuffed at every stage. I would think that seeing the photos on the Queen’s desk didn’t show him or Meghan or their son was hurtful and an indication that they no longer counted. The further photos of the 4 reigning/next in line would surely have pushed home that point.
Harry has slumped down the line of succession, the same thing that happened to Andrew, Anne and Edward. But they had each other to share this change of status and that surely made matters easier.
I think Harry feels very alone and impotent and is trying very hard to change things for his wife, but has had to make a huge fuss to get anyone to listen. If you add in his own personal problems then I am very surprised that he is still trying to go forward instead of just giving up. Perhaps now the RF will abandon their stiff upper lip and treat Harry better than they did Diana.
Sorry for long waffle.

MawB Wed 15-Jan-20 16:11:14

There is a Royal convention of not making major announcements so as to clash with others.
I think William and Kate’s announcement about their new climate change award was viewed by the H/M camp as upstaging their return from Canada and might have annoyed them
To make a major announcement on the birthday of a Royal might similarly be viewed as upstaging.
Royal advisers are paid to advise and to prevent such “gaffes” if “gaffes” they were, occurring.

suziewoozie Wed 15-Jan-20 16:12:00

annie ?????. Bit of advice, try reading the posts properly

Bridgeit Wed 15-Jan-20 16:12:48

Best wishes Suziwoozie, , & thank you too. , wither we are lesbians or not or anything in between ?

JenniferEccles Wed 15-Jan-20 16:14:40

suziewoozie just a simple question for you......

If you are finding the comments, and indeed the posters on here so very objectionable, WHY are you still on this thread????

Callistemon Wed 15-Jan-20 16:15:21

But all their Royal advisers have gone on their way (did they jump or were they pushed?) And I understand that new PR people have been taken on, one of them American.

I wasn't going to post on here any more!

Bridgeit Wed 15-Jan-20 16:15:34

Thanks MawB that makes sense.?

Jabberwok Wed 15-Jan-20 16:17:42

Quite JE!! I doubt the Sussexes were invited as they were in Canada! Long way to travel to a birthday bash!

merlotgran Wed 15-Jan-20 16:21:47

We had crushes (pashes) at boarding school. Quite a few of us decided to heap adoration on the games mistress.

That was until I pointed her out to my brother on a school photo and he said, 'God, she's grim!'

I changed my mind. grin

Washerwoman Wed 15-Jan-20 16:23:37

Suziewoozie needs to pop over to Mumsnet to see there is a lot ofvery strong criticism of both H and M before suggesting anyone needs 'outing ' to their adult DCs.Please stop pitting one generation against another.I don't hate MM.But like a lot and both GN and MN have less respect since that interview in S.A. and the flying visit to the Canadian embassy then whizzing off to leave Harry to sort things.I don't hate her,try to make allowances for her as a newish mum,but feel rather cynical about her motives now in retrospect.
I don't need 'outing' to my DCs or my two good friends who are 20 and 25 years younger than me because we discuss things openly. Funnily enough all of them have the same thoughts,and reservations, about Meghan as I do.Fancy that?

merlotgran Wed 15-Jan-20 16:26:36

My DD's opinion of Meghan makes my comments positively saintly.

Anniebach Wed 15-Jan-20 16:28:04

Same for me merlot

Callistemon Wed 15-Jan-20 16:29:14

merlotgran I still remember our lovely young games mistress. We all had a pash on her.

Anniebach Wed 15-Jan-20 16:36:18

I did on the English mistress

Eglantine21 Wed 15-Jan-20 16:49:58

I’ve read suziewoozie comment about the “crush” over and over.

It is homophobic and very offensive to lesbians.

She tried to cover herself with her next posting but you can’t get away from it.

She says Annie is implying she is a lesbian and that is “wallowing in the sewer’.

If I’m not right suziewoozie, please clarify exactly what you did mean. I can’t read it any other way.

Washerwoman Wed 15-Jan-20 16:52:37

I suspect Royal advisors probably 'advised ' or ticked off H +M that in future the end of a Royal tour that had been well regarded and generated lots of positive publicity was not the time or place to give such a personal interview and announce legal proceedings against the press.And in this instance I think a lot of people agreed.Again not what they had to say,but how and when they said it.

janipat Wed 15-Jan-20 17:04:07

Yes I read suziewoozie's comment as homophobic. To equate suggestion of a crush as being purely sexual is strange to say the least. I still have a "crush" on Penelope Keith, could watch her in anything and love listening to her reading audiobooks, even though the stories are a little lame at times. I have no inclination to bed her, or my other crush Stephen Fry!

GracesGranMK3 Wed 15-Jan-20 17:05:28

Surely M & H could have waited 24 hours before divulging news that was clearly going to cause a major upset.

But you have no idea whether or not it could, what else had been discussed, or basically anything. You do not know these people or their actual lives and yet you have all managed to spin out this lack of fact or knowledge into 26 pages of gossip, often vicious gossip about two people who are basically strangers. Why do any of you want or need to do that?

Baggs Wed 15-Jan-20 17:06:28

Hugh Grant is supporting them

Not sure I'd want HG's "support".

He's a great actor and very musical, which I like, but his bandwaggoning.... meh.

Baggs Wed 15-Jan-20 17:07:56

I think some people love gossiping as much as others love political speculating. Each to their own.

Baggs Wed 15-Jan-20 17:09:08

Only seven pages on my ipad. Just saying. Not that it matters.

tickingbird Wed 15-Jan-20 17:11:26

@Eglatine21
She says Annie is implying she is a lesbian and that is “wallowing in the sewer’.

One rule for Suziewoo and another for everyone else.

GracesGranMK3 Wed 15-Jan-20 17:16:02

If that doesn't tell you about the people discussing I don't know what does. With most people politics is about political theory not tearing people you don't know apart (with one repetitive and boring exception on GN). With scurrilous gossip such as we see on this thread most of the so called facts are illusory and the gossip sheer spite. Why would anyone want to be that person bags?

ExD1938 Wed 15-Jan-20 17:17:14

I don't know about the rest of you but I'm sick to the back teeth of this subject, YET I cannot help myself from reading every letter, newspaper article or post about it.
I'm like a child scratching a scab.
Why couldn't they have made their decision, thrashed it out with GrandMa and slipped quietly off to 'N America'?

Especially as they hate(?) media interest?

sparkii Wed 15-Jan-20 17:19:45

This is absolutely brilliant entertainment on a cold January day.
People who like M , are lesbians. Fan bloody tastic.

GrannyLaine Wed 15-Jan-20 17:21:35

GGMk3 would you also say that the announcement of the pregnancy on Princess Eugenie's wedding day was also 'urgent'?

This forum is of course about opinion and some posters, as always, are deliberately inflammatory. I'm not sure how closely you have followed but many posts are thoughtful and fair minded. Do we need to personally 'know' a political party leader to have an opinion on that person's role or performance?

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