I feel sorry for Prince Harry

I should just like to be a fly on the wall this afternoon. I reckon he should be let off for another year, go to Canada and lead a "normal" life, it would be interesting to see how he got on with no help but a couple of security guards, but of course that is not the Duchess's idea at all.

Sun 12-Jan-20 13:06:52
I think Megan has helped Harry found the escape route that he has wanted since a child. No one should be born into a job for life.

I agree with you Jaycee5. My first thought was great, well done them. Hopefully, after today this will be put to bed and also find a way of letting the other and future minor royals off the hook including the younger two of William's children.

It seems there are some who want to keep the royals just in order to tear other human beings apart.

More than anything I cannot blame them for wanting to bring their child up away from prejudice and racism - which is just as bad, if not worse, in the higher echelons of our society as it is in any other part of it. We are often not the country we like to think we are.

crafty Andrew took an oath when he joined the RN. Which part of consorting with a convicted paedophile does that oath cover? Also as he’s been savcked, can any of the frenetic royalists on here explain to me why he should keep his HRH status or any of the various sources of money/ accommodation he gets via HM and PC. As for exploiting his royal connections - there was the repayment of SF’s loan from said paedophile and no one quite knows how he ever afforded £13m for a ski lodge - but he does have some very dodgy oligarch friends

At least Catherine's parents are still together ! Which makes for a more balanced and stable childhood . Any child will suffer through separation/divorce as that family stability has gone.

Both Harry's and Meghan's backgrounds were marred by separation/divorce where when children are young and this sort of thing happens, blame themselves because of their confusion and misunderstanding of the situation.

Separation anxiety is a real illness in children which affects them in their early lives and depending how their lives pan out, can spill into their teenage years and beyond in other forms of mental illness. Some children can cope better than others.

Because Kate's background has been a stable one it has been easier for William to settle into adulthood then fatherhood. I think it will be a rocky road for Harry and possibly an unsettled one, though not initially but as time goes on I think he'll encounter difficulties within himself.

but of course that is not the Duchess's idea at all.

Why the bitchy comments?

Republicans will support them, hopes that it will bring down
the monarchy and have a president who will be a politician.

The media have shown themselves to be vile, and have encouraged unpleasantness (racism and sexism) in ordinary people.

Well unlike you annie I’m not able to speak for those on here not spewing out gossip, speculation, envy, jealousy, half truths and untruths. What I can say is that I hope this whole debacle could lead to a much more slimmed down, less ostentatious, fawned over RF with thought out lives for those not in close succession. And also that we never again have a 93 year old at the head of the family. But it won’t happen - the utter stupidity will continue ad nauseum.

I treasure a quote from 1994, about another royal upheaval.

Sir -I deplore the behaviour of (the photographer) and the tabloid press in publishing intimate photographs on the bogus grounds of public interest. I deplore the Duchess of York's behaviour which puts her in such an ignominious position.
Most of all I deplore the salacious and mischievous trait of my own character which makes me want to rush out and buy the Daily Mirror.

I really must stop wasting my time reading all these threads.

^Republicans will support them, hopes that it will bring down
the monarchy and have a president who will be a politician.^

What rubbish. Just as me suggesting the uneducated, old and white can only see simplistic views of right and wrong would be.

I have been trying to think of the words for H

`conduct unbecoming`

The army feel very let down

"Spoilt child" - heavens above. This is a young man choosing to defend his family unit. He can only achieve this by standing up to his wider family.

I too feel very sorry for him; not because I think Meghan is a prize bitch, as others do, but because he is up against hundreds of years of tradition and the vile press.

I cannot believe that people give credence to pronouncements by a spurned spouse as if they are objective opinions!

Luckgirl he is free to walk away from his wider family, but isn’t willing to give up the privileges being a member of that
family give him.

the army feel very let down

Has The Army made an official statement?
Is Harry a reservist?

I wish Harry and Megan well ,and hope it works out , BUT it should be no handouts from daddy , no handouts from the government . Live on your own money untill you have other ways of earning . I have to say though , that this TV Interview sounds like a threat to disclose the RF dirty washing if they don't get what they want . I'd love to see princess Anne involved in the discussion , she has more balls than all the royal princes , and would undoubtedly have something to say about the situation . The way the current situation is going is uncannily like Andy and Fergies split taking the heat off Charles and Diana , could the royals perhaps owe Andrew a debt they are repaying?

In their own words they want to step down to make money.

Of course! He is Captain General of the Royal Marines, an Honorary Air Commandant and Commodore in Chief of Small Ships and Diving (why that one?)

Presumably he will have to relinquish these posts too.
Apart from his post as Canadian Ranger.

It would have been courteous to have informed everyone before making an announcement.

I think that he may well have made this move whoever he married.
I went through the whole thing of marrying someone from overseas, moving to their country and having a child while there. It is not easy, believe me.
Even though the country that I moved to was English speaking, the actual way of life was so totally different to the UK ,and despite the support I got from the in laws, I struggled and didn't feel I belonged until my son was born after losing one son through stillbirth and then a miscarriage.
Unfortunately, my marriage didn't survive, so I came home.
If Harry can live in a different country, I'd say go for it. His wife and child are more important and the scars that have been left by the memories of how his much loved mum was treated by the media and anyone else that seems to think it is ok to voice their own negative opinion on people they have no way of actually knowing, in public, means that he will hopefully have a more peaceful life.
Everyone has a right to live their life as they see fit and I wish him, Meghan and Archie all the very best.

Harry desperately wants to get away from cameras, observers, outsiders, looking and filming and exploiting him, but doesn't what he and Meghan appear to be wanting to do depend on that?

Because we regard them as public property. Their lifestyle is funded to a great extent by the British public, and we are entitled to get something in return. The way they have behaved shows contempt for us and the queen. They were even reluctant to tell us the news when the baby was born, as if we had no right to know.

Imagine. This couple doesn’t want to be “owned” anymore.

How dare they.

We did have no right to know about their child.

We do not own people.

Can’t imagine at all why the rest of the world thinks so many tabloid articles are full of racism with attitudes like these.

Ok H wants no part in royal life and has felt like this since before he met Meghan. In that case why didn’t he leave once he’d found love with Meghan? Had a private wedding, no Duke and Duchess and none of this mess.

FGS stop going on about racism. People hated Wallis Simpson, Camilla, Fergie. Always this ridiculous charge of racism whenever a person with an ounce of black blood is involved. Get a grip.

William and Harry have issued a statement, press reports of
disagreements are false, the statement also referred to mental
health

The army feel very let down

Do they? So you have consulted them and can point us to this "truth" can you craftyone?

I should have known this would turn into another vicious, nasty gossip shop or a thread.

Well maybe, just maybe, this meeting today might make the whole of the royal establishment look more closely at their future, and how it is to develop into the 21st century. Slimming down is one thing, but attitudes, behaviour and financing, I feel, all need to be modernised.
So perhaps H&M, in their clumsy, thoughtless but independent way, are providing a right royal kick up the backside and in the long run, doing them a favour!