I feel sorry for Prince Harry

Plenty of royals have lower key weddings, Zara Phillips, Peter Phillips, both grandchildren of the Queen. And Princess Anne’s own, albeit second wedding, very small, private, wearing a not new outfit, no, Harry and Meghan could have chosen a more discreet do if that’s what they would have preferred.

Er she invites the press in. That's the difference.

Poor woman can’t do anything without being criticised. She has a lovely smile - no she’s “grinning like a Cheshire Cat” would you say that of St Catherine when she smiles? No I bet she’s the “perfect English rose”. If she chooses to do anything privately that’s criticised for not letting the public gawp. If she’s chooses to let Photographers in at an event that’s “courting publicity” .She can’t do right for doing wrong. No wonder she wants to get away from the toxic UK. And no one can claim to know how she feels or what her motivations and experiences are- only she knows that. No doubt if she gives an interview or writes a book she will get hauled over the coals for that. If she tries to do things privately and the press hound her she will be accused of wanting to be in the limelight.

Vegansrock said If St Catherine visits a charity and there’s loads of pictures - is it because she “craves publicity”? Double standards abound when it comes to this couple.

It's not double standards when someone says they don't want to be under press scrutiny in the country that by nature of their heritage or their jobs is to be expected but then are quite happy to be so in another on their own terms.

That to me is double standards.

I think you’re right annsixty, because Meghan is in the news most days. If that’s a quiet life away from the media, whatever would a public life with the media be like? Meghan courts publicly, why on earth would she be out every day, grinning like a Cheshire cat? Surely she would be living quietly in the luxurious mansion she’s living in at the moment, and keeping a very low profile.
It has now occurred to me why she wanted all those tinsel town celebrities at her wedding, it was so she’d be known by them in preparation for what was to come.

No we don't and we never will.
I just wish they would get on with the private life they wish to live and then we could end all the speculation and forget them.
It is never going to happen sadly.

It’s all speculation isn’t it? None of us truly knows for sure. Perhaps it’s Harry’s choice to step away, perhaps all the negative press of his wife does remind him of how it affected his mother and he’s scared history may repeat itself. We will never know for sure.

If they had wanted a quiet wedding why then did they have to invite every celebrity they could think of? A less showy intimate family wedding would have included members of MM's family and of course she didn't want that.

How on earth do you know that their choice was a quiet wedding Luckygirl?
It’s hilarious that you know that, whilst others are continually being told that they don’t know anything about the whole sorry saga

Yes, they do have an incredible amount of wealth - and do not need to work towards being financially independent, they are already there.

Their fame doesn’t need to be carried around with them - they could live very quiet lives if they chose to do so, but neither wants to. Their global brand and international charitable trust shows neither has a desire to step out of the limelight.

As I understand it their choice was a quiet wedding, but their position forced them into a big do.

Where on earth did you get that idea from, Luckygirl?

Harry's 'good things' were all in the pre Meghan days. After that he just trailed behind her while she supported her chosen good causes.

As I understand it their choice was a quiet wedding, but their position forced them into a big do.

My life is not controlled and scrutinised, picked over and lied about. I think if it was I would find somewhere to get away from it all.

Their wealth, as I have said before, comes from her hard graft, and for him as an accident of birth.

There is no way that they cannot carry their fame around with them, so whatever way they choose to earn their livings (although they do not need to) that is inevitably going to be a part of it.

I do not feel in the least deceived. But then I do not look up to the RF as some sort of icon - they are just fellow human beings with virtues/failings and their own furrow to plough. For me there is no pedestal from which they can fall.

I think that Harry has used his unchosen position to do some good things and that Meghan has been beside him in this - good for them!

I think the only thing that was expected of the wedding was that they would actually feed the public they’d oh so graciously invited “to feel part of the celebrations”

No one, the people nor anyone else, demanded a massive wedding, but Harry probably expected it and wanted it. If he hadn’t wanted it he would have refused and had a quieter wedding, which is perfectly possible, even for royalty. Meghan could have said no thanks to the big wedding, it’s my second time around, I’ll have something a bit quieter. No hiding then at the time of the wedding. They looked happy and everyone was happy for them, hence the cheering crowds all along the carriage ride route. But then the British people are toxic, racist, and never ask her how she is. What a lot of rubbish. Meghan did deceive the British people and the royal family. Tickingbird is right. Meghan gave the royals and everyone else the impression that she was happy to marry Harry and take on everything associated with that. Twenty months later she’s gone, taking the baby with her. The sheer waste of money from the wedding, the house, the clothes, and everything else, and yet there are people on this thread who are defending this behaviour. Unbelievable.

Luckygirl
Deceive. promotes a belief, a concept or idea that is not true. It is often done for personal gain or advantage

Why was the 'Sussex' website set up in such secrecy? Who takes their dogs on a 4,700 journey just for a 6 week holiday?
Who lets the man they love face the music on their own?

I think you were right with expected, trisher. It would have seemed unfair for Harry not to have almost as big a 'do' as his brother. I don't remember anyone demanding it.

I'm not up in arms because of the wedding. I was happy for them and thought Meghan was a welcome change.

My doubts and change of mind began with all the nonsense surrounding the (non) announcement of Archie's birth and the photos of body parts on Instagram.

I wasn't deceived I always felt the wedding was a load of hogwash, but it was what the people expected demanded. Now you are all up in arms because she gave you what you wanted.

Exactly tickingbird

By accepting a state wedding costing millions, accepting an aristocratic title and all that goes with it and then setting up a trademarked brand with the intention of making huge amounts of money off the back of said title, and then..........deciding nah! Don’t want to do all this stuffy, boring royal stuff. I’ll keep the title and the kudos that go with it and clear off abroad to rake in the millions and hobnob with my celeb pals who only want to know me because I’m a Duchess. That luckygirl us how we’ve been deceived.

In what way have the British people been deceived?

She tried to de3ceive "us"!!! mind-boggling!

Luckygirl.

US is collective, us/we the British people

Prince Andrew most certainly did not abandon his wife, and he is not a convicted paedophile.
Dangerous ground.

*Cathrine never lied or tried to deceive us.
Megan tried ( and failed) to deceive us.* - unbelievable!

"US" - she has never been anywhere near me! Don't know the lass.

That to Hetty58 - I'm glad he's found a way to escape the worst of it, that's all