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Newatthis Sun 16-Feb-20 18:55:21

We all know that if a child's childhood is spent in idyllic circumstances with a happy mum then it is more than likely to turn out OK - or is it? It's all well and good Kate regaling how she was inspired by her granny whom it would seem baked, did arts and crafts etc etc etc and that she felt anxious as a new mum bringing George back from the hospital - really Kate? Did you have to immediately get on with washing, ironing, cleaning, cooking, night-time feeds etc etc. whilst in a state of constant exhaustion with no help from anyone. What about all the mums (and dads) living on very low income, perhaps in an abusive relationships, living in a high rise block of flats when the lift doesn't work etc etc etc. She has no idea what it's like to stay happy under the adverse conditions that sometimes motherhood brings. I wish she would stop trying to 'pretend' to understand - she's never had to go without anything, neither before she was married or since and with an army of help, she never will.

Callistemon Sun 16-Feb-20 21:08:23

Oh, I misunderstoodGagaJo
It was good that you were there to support your DD, though.

Despite all I thought I knew about babies, I found it was an anxious time with No.1.

MawB Sun 16-Feb-20 21:05:19

confusedconfused

ExperiencedNotOld Sun 16-Feb-20 21:03:51

Fuck off. I’ve let you bunch of nasty hags into my life, but no more. And that’s a taste of your own medicine but not dressed up in some false emotions. I’m off for good. Gloat please, just as I’d expect.

MawB Sun 16-Feb-20 20:59:15

Thinking of it, I had 4, 3 of whom survived.

GagaJo Sun 16-Feb-20 20:58:13

I wish, Callistemon. They lived with me but I've always been a full time teacher. Doesn't leave much time for looking after DGS.

MawB Sun 16-Feb-20 20:57:02

Annie I am truly sorry for getting the wrong end of the stick and then proceeding to beat you about the head with it.
I read it as a rhetorical question, not realising you were quoting somebody else.
Please forgive me.flowers

Anniebach Sun 16-Feb-20 20:54:32

I did put a question mark ? I was so upset that some here thought I supported abortion I thought I hadn’t typed the ?

Thank you to those who read the whole of my post before
leaping at me.

I am one of 5 , all wanted , all loved, I would have had four but
lost two.

ExperiencedNotOld. ? This mean a question not a suggestion, hope you found your sick bag

Callistemon Sun 16-Feb-20 20:53:42

Oh dear, well, I think you should read some of your own posts ENO!

But probably correct about being right
grin

#MrsAlwaysRight

Callistemon Sun 16-Feb-20 20:51:16

Me for one.
My happy accident brings much joy to many people.
And pays taxes.

ExperiencedNotOld Sun 16-Feb-20 20:50:46

I’ve totally had it will you lot. Narrow minded embittered always right bunch of nasties, all of you.

Anniebach Sun 16-Feb-20 20:44:59

Maw I forgot to post it as a question, to critcise someone for
having 3 children is to critcise many, many women

MawB Sun 16-Feb-20 20:39:47

I do apologise Anniebach I should have known that you could never be so uncharitable.
Well HettyMaud, DH was one of 4. If my in laws had stopped at 2 the NHS would have had one GP less for an entire career.
It is simplistic to make it a simple case of numbers.
A country cannot afford to have a declining birth rate or else who will be paying the taxes which will provide your and my pension? As Germany and France are finding out right now.

Callistemon Sun 16-Feb-20 20:38:55

It's OK Oopsadaisy best to put a misunderstanding right!!

merlotgran Sun 16-Feb-20 20:38:04

If child number 3 hadn’t been planned she should have thought of the world and aborted it ?

The question mark at the end of Anniebach's comment gives clarity.

Callistemon Sun 16-Feb-20 20:37:47

ExperiencedNotOld please read my post, I think Anniebach was as disgusted as both of you at HettyMaud's post.

Oopsadaisy3 Sun 16-Feb-20 20:37:27

Sorry callistemen posts crossed

Oopsadaisy3 Sun 16-Feb-20 20:36:51

I think that annies comment was in answer to hettymaud and not her point of view

Callistemon Sun 16-Feb-20 20:35:57

Anniebach did put a question mark after that, MawB.

It was in response to another poster who sounded disgusted that someone should have had a third baby with the worries about overpopulation.
Anniebach was, I think, questioning that and quite right too.

It was HettyMaud who posted that.

Callistemon Sun 16-Feb-20 20:32:27

Anniebach 19:59:29

It must be truly enlightening to have experienced everything that others experience.

Even areas with high rise flats have parks nearby.

ExperiencedNotOld Sun 16-Feb-20 20:29:00

MawB it’s not often I agree with you but I’m glad someone else shares my shock that someone apparently an experienced women and grandmother can say such a thing. I am sickened.

MawB Sun 16-Feb-20 20:26:19

If child number 3 hadn’t been planned she should have thought of the world and aborted it ?

I can’t believe you wrote that Anniebach
How many “happy accidents” are loved and cherished and bring joy to their parents’ lives.
Are you really saying a young couple , whether they make demands on society or not, should abort a third child because they should have “thought of the world”
I am frankly disgusted.
DD1 has 3 children, DD2 and DD3 one each.
Is that permitted according to your law of averages?

Callistemon Sun 16-Feb-20 20:25:38

GagaJo I thought you looked after your DGS?
Perhaps I got that wrong.

Callistemon Sun 16-Feb-20 20:23:54

trisher

Kate can probably do wrong but most people think she is trying her best.
She isn't a bolter.

Nasty post
Nasty OP.

ExperiencedNotOld Sun 16-Feb-20 20:22:54

And I’ve just re-read your post of 20.01. You nasty person. How dreadful a suggestion.

ExperiencedNotOld Sun 16-Feb-20 20:21:00

Anniebach I don’t know what anyone thinks and experiences, I just keep an open mind and try and see things from the respective point of view. That’s not being a narrow minded person that always has to take the side of the underdog without any expression of real understanding. Some posters always have to grind their ‘poor unfortunates’ axe. Money and so called privilege doesn’t guarantee happiness, believe me. I’m neither but I do watch and consider.