BBC presenters!

I know what you mean, Varian. I am Scottish by birth and rearing so I can do glottal stops nay bother. The "pause" is actually a partly inhibited glottal stop.

glottal, not global

I would call that a pause, not a glottal stop.

A global stop would be saying bu-err instead of butter.

Varian, I prefer the glottal stop for keeping e.g. 'Samba' separated from 'and rumba'. There is no such dance as a sambar.

Alexa I don't think the glottal stop has any place in good pronunciation. Do you?

I mainly listen to LBC, especially Sheila F. and Steve Allen who is very tongue in cheek. Used to watch Eggheads (just heard that Dave from Manchester has died), but now watch the Chase as we find Bradley very natural.

Varian: "Why put an 'r' in where there isn't one?" Some people such as TV presenters who ought to know better are unable to pronounce the glottal stop.

Yes, felice!

The more you say it though, the odder and more wrong it sounds even if it's right.

I too heard that arky-pelargo!

It jumped out at me and thought I was hearing things but she then repeated it

I can only assume she's never actually heard it pronounced before - can't think why the producer didn't correct her!

Arki-pel-ago.

Why put an 'r' in where there isn't one?

Sorry, I did put pellar but pronounced as peller rather than emphasising the ar, not as in 'hard'

Iyswim

But perhaps I'm not posh

I always thought it was pronounced Arcky - PEL- a - go

I pronounce it

Ark i (short i) pellar go
With the emphasis on the pell

Have I been pronouncing the word Archipelago wrong. I don't think so but a person on From our own correspondent has pronounced it Archy- pel- largo. Not just once, but twice.
Are there 2 ways of pronouncing the word?

I have tutored a number of students from years 9 - 11, in English Lang and Lit. Whenever I mention an episode in English or World history, I always get blank looks. They seem to learn all about World War 2 in secondary school and in primary school, they do a series of 'topics' - eg Egypt, Rome, The Vikings. They rarely know the context of these topics, within a time-line. I loved History when I was at school and appreciated that it was a continuum which doesn't seem to get through to these youngsters.

It was, but was derailed by an ultra right wing brexiter trying to score silly points.

Nope.still don’t get it, I thought it was thread about irritating presenters/ignorant celebrities.

That's coming from a Tory- Jeremy Paxman, like most of the BBC political staff he is so brexitty right wing that he sees everyone else as "leftie remainers".

The BBC, because it is based in London, has become socially liberal - most staff would, for instance have supported equal marriage.

However the people who matter in the political content have always been right wing, and in the last four years extremely pro-brexit.

The Brexit Broadcasting Corporation has a lot to answer for.

A quote from Jeramy Paxman.
if you asked me what the politics of most people at the BBC are I should say most people voted to remain most people were Labour/Liberal Democrats with a small i

What has politics got to do with quiz show /magazine presenters ?

Who are all these "Leftie Remainers" who work for the Brexit Broadcasting Corporation?

Are you talking about Laura Kuenssberg, Andrew Neil, Nick Robinson, John Humphries, Jeremy Paxman etc?

Quizqueen ? I got it and I would imagine other posters did.

? I genuinely do not understand what you mean Quizqueen