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BlueBelle Sat 29-Feb-20 17:38:11

...but not in government matters he’s sired an offspring

maddyone Sun 01-Mar-20 15:58:29

Gaga, I am not by any means a Boris Babe, perish the thought, but I think some of the comments on this thread base, and in poor taste.

Trisher, I am not by any means saying it’s okay for a younger man to have an affair, whether the the woman is younger or older than him. I don’t think age has got anything to do with it. What I am saying, and I thought it was perfectly clear, but obviously it wasn’t, is that people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones, or as it says in the Bible, let him who is without sin cast the first stone.
I don’t condone affairs, divorces, abortions, but I do think that these things are up to the people involved, they are personal, and it’s not up to others to judge. I will not be judgmental about BJ and Carrie simply because it’s none of my business, and equally it’s none of yours. What is our business, and we have legitimate right to discuss and approve or not, is how BJ operates as a Prime Minister, and the decisions he, and his government make about the things that that affect the country.

GagaJo Sun 01-Mar-20 16:01:45

Yes, BUT the point is he has been absent for the last couple of weeks while HUGE things have been going on, and the first news we DO get is, he's producing his 6th child.

No insult to mother or child, but SO WHAT? He's supposed to be running the country not swanning around at expensive parties and having snuggle time with his up the duff girl friend! If he's NOT up to the job, get someone in who IS.

Callistemon Sun 01-Mar-20 16:07:39

Joesoap in answer to your question about how many children Boris has - I asked the same question of DS this morning
His answer 'I doubt that he knows, so I don't know why you think I might!'

Chestnut Sun 01-Mar-20 16:08:15

Good comments lemongrove and maddyone has made some really good points. You talk about morality trisher, well he's marrying her isn't he? If he wasn't marrying her then you'd be howling about that.

When every last one of us can say we have only been married to one partner, only had children by one partner, never been divorced, and never had an abortion or an affair, then criticism can justified.
Okay in answer to maddyone's excellent comment, who on this thread is qualified to 'cast the first stone'? Do any of you anti-Boris howlers here qualify? If so then please come forward and claim the moral high ground.

Maremia Sun 01-Mar-20 16:16:13

Saw this on Twitter, with reference to the bad press about his lack of interest in the flooding up North and the spread of the coronavirus, 'Oven ready decoy'!

Callistemon Sun 01-Mar-20 16:16:39

I'll put my hand up, I am qualified to criticise!

All I will say is I'm glad it's not my DD
It's not the fact of a younger or older partner or the fact that someone has been divorced twice, although that is not a promising track record for a lasting relationship, it's the other affairs. And the fact that he is, according to his other children, not a great father.
If he marries Carrie, then a vacancy is created.

May7 Sun 01-Mar-20 16:20:28

Callistemon I too am qualified to criticise and agree with your post entirely. It was just what I was thinking before I read it

trisher Sun 01-Mar-20 16:24:11

Chestnut actiually I wouldn't be "howling"if he wasn't marrying her. I happen to believe serial marriages are less honourable than just living together. Anyone can change their mind and move on to a new relationship but making vows each time is either dishonest or stupid.
Still no comments about the fact that these women all had a professional relationship with Boris before he shagged them? Or the other women he was involved with while still married? Mind you if I was Carrie I'd be watching all the women he works with in the future. A leopard doesn't change its spots. Still we seem to be rivalling Italy and Belosconi for a PM and scandal and Boris's fan club apparently think it's OK. Who would ever have imagined that a return to real British values included adultery?

Barmeyoldbat Sun 01-Mar-20 16:33:34

I wonder what the reaction would have been had it been a female mp labour leader having a baby in the same circumstances? I can just imagine the uproar and comments but its ok for good old Boris his fan club will always support him.

GagaJo Sun 01-Mar-20 16:37:12

Exactly. Especially if she had left 5 other children behind her that she had virtually no contact with.

Greymar Sun 01-Mar-20 16:47:51

I don't think anybody is 'howling'

Chestnut Sun 01-Mar-20 16:50:33

trisher I happen to believe serial marriages are less honourable than just living together. Anyone can change their mind and move on to a new relationship but making vows each time is either dishonest or stupid.
You are forgetting that a child is part of this relationship. In my book it is right and proper, and respectful to the child to marry. One can only go into a relationship with good intentions and promises, whether you can keep these promises for ever is another matter. I definitely think there are people who have the 'faithful' gene and will happily stay with one person, and people who have the 'roaming' gene who cannot stay in a relationship, although they often do eventually.

paddyanne Sun 01-Mar-20 17:14:23

I'll put my hand up too,but I have made it clear I think his time should have been spent on clearing up the mess the country is in not on his love life .I dont understand serial monogamy though what do people like Boris think will be different with each marriage ,if the main thing in common with the broken relationships is HIM why will the next one be any different,
I admit to being what my daughter calls old school on this ,it made me angry that her first husband played away ,knowing he had small children at home and a wife who loved him.It annoyed me a lot that those children have been introduced to several would be stepmothers only to have them disappear overnight when the next one appears .IF you have children THEY should take priority over your "urges" anything else is just pure selfishness .Boris is not what I would have liked for my daughter however much money or power he has,he has no morals .Not just in this case but in general with his disgusting policies

lemongrove Sun 01-Mar-20 17:15:03

Oh my! This thread certainly brings out the worst in some posters, it’s as if they have to be coarse ( a terrible magic spell?!)?
Even trisher is now talking about ‘shagging’ !
As for any comments about either Carrie or the future baby,
I hope she never gets to read this thread, it will certainly be an eye opener as to what oldies are like (older but not wiser.)

Chestnut Sun 01-Mar-20 17:18:52

lemongrove - Boris certainly brings out the worst in posters! If he were in a room with everyone who has posted here I wonder if they would tear his clothes off, or tear him to shreds! ?

sarahellenwhitney Sun 01-Mar-20 17:21:38

The world is over populated which no one can deny. Not unusual that Carrie would want a child of her own. So what is the problem ? You don't like the guy.?He already has six children supported by himself not the state soooo?

Anniebach Sun 01-Mar-20 17:22:48

Why is divorce and remarriage less honourable trisher ?

GagaJo Sun 01-Mar-20 17:34:56

I wouldn't worry about CS seeing this. She lives with BJ don't forget. She'll have been exposed to,a lot worse than 'shagging' given his predilection for vile racist remarks in public. I can't begin to imagine what he's capable of in private, other than the time he was reported to have whacked her.

maddyone Sun 01-Mar-20 17:44:46

It’s the horrible comments about the unborn baby that I mostly object to. Two in particular were vile. I’m surprised that such venom should come from grandmothers.
Everyone is allowed their own opinion of BJ, as they are all politicians. Posters are absolutely entitled to criticise BJ’s behaviour during the last two weeks, or indeed during any other period of his political life, but it’s unacceptable to call an unborn baby a child of the devil. I would have thought we would all agree on that.

lemongrove Sun 01-Mar-20 17:45:56

Wasn’t it her whacking him ? The spilling red wine incident.
She doesn’t have to marry him or have a baby, so she obviously wants to, as does he.
He is 55, the PM and probably feels he should be settled.
Who knows if it will last, ( or is bothered) all I care about is that his government tries hard to honour manifesto promises,
Spends money on the North, completes Brexit and mends all the potholes!

Chestnut Sun 01-Mar-20 17:46:42

GagaJo - ? Can't you find any more Boris insults to bring up, or are you saving them for the next post?

NotTooOld Sun 01-Mar-20 17:53:39

Oh, come on, ladies (and gents)! It's a new life coming into the world. Let's wish them all the best. Today is the first day of Spring, so let's see this and mini-Boris as a sign of better times to come. Congratulations Carrie and Boris!

trisher Sun 01-Mar-20 17:54:15

Even trisher is now talking about ‘shagging’ ! What do you mean even. Thought I had a reputation for using bad language!
Annie how many times can you promise to be faithful before it stops meaning anything?
Chestnut there were 4 children in his previous marriage,didn't stop him shagging around.

trisher Sun 01-Mar-20 17:56:13

NoTooOld even that's wrong! Today is not the first day of spring!!!

GagaJo Sun 01-Mar-20 17:58:22

Ooooo Chestnut, don't dare me!

Lemongrove, you BOUGHT that lie? That isn't what the neighbours heard, but I guess his PR team leapt into place very successfully.

Other than that, LG, I agree. He should get on and do the job. Not try to distract us with yet another women up the duff. Get into his office and do some actual WORK.