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Perhaps Boris is not the best person........

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Luckygirl Tue 24-Mar-20 11:03:18

.........to be broadcasting the announcements about coronavirus measures.

We know him as someone with scant regard for the truth and his manner of delivery is bumbling. He lacks gravitas. I wonder if some of the idiots who have ignored all the rules just dismiss what he is saying because it is him saying it. There are strong feelings about him.

Might be better if the CMO were to deliver these rules.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 26-Mar-20 14:05:33

Johnson is refusing to make use of the EU joint procurement agreement here in the U.K. despite urgent and rising need absolutely lays bare his plan to put ideology above lives.

We have a narcissist who holds high office to the U.K. ‘s detriment.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 26-Mar-20 13:49:50

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trisher Thu 26-Mar-20 13:19:58

Isn't that funny endlessstrife you might almost think we had some sort of right wing bias in the media which kept us from knowing nasty things about Tories but that's just silly isn't it???

endlessstrife Thu 26-Mar-20 13:02:13

As an afterthought, we’ve been listening to all BBC news, on the radio, and tv, for the last month, and haven’t heard this at all.

endlessstrife Thu 26-Mar-20 12:56:21

On the surface, it does sound strange he would refuse help, particularly as it would do so much damage for morale and his government.However, he has commissioned Dyson to produce 10,000 ventilators, and is hopefully on the case with other equipment. I would find it hard to accept something that the offerer may need themselves. We have to trust him, we have no choice.

trisher Thu 26-Mar-20 12:09:43

Apparently because he is PM we should unquestionably allow him to screw things up. Really!!?? Is it OK to refuse help? Is it OK to keep construction sites open?

Summerlove Thu 26-Mar-20 11:53:39

Should people stand behind a Prime Minister who is making choices that don’t appear to benefit the public?

Ngaio1 Thu 26-Mar-20 11:51:55

Apologies for over use of the word crisis!

Ngaio1 Thu 26-Mar-20 11:51:19

I have never been a Boris fan but think that he is doing a very good as PM whilst this crisis is happening, I thought poor Theresa May had a Baptism of Fire when she became PM but that is as nothing compared to the current crisis.!

Let us stand firmly behind Boris when he is in the centre of a dreadful crisis. Could anyone have been better?

Labaik Thu 26-Mar-20 11:48:31

It was refused ages ago. I mentioned it over a week ago but was shot down for saying it....

Summerlove Thu 26-Mar-20 11:36:22

I’m curious how people will defend this

Luckygirl Thu 26-Mar-20 10:45:11

Yes - I have just looked it up and found it in the Independent too.

Change.org might be a platform for people to challenge this.

trisher Thu 26-Mar-20 10:43:33

It's true! In the Independent as well www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/coronavirus-boris-johnson-medical-equipment-eu-brexit-a9424631.html
Never underesimate the duplicity of Boris.

Luckygirl Thu 26-Mar-20 10:41:09

Could this be fake news? I cannot believe he would do this. It cannot be true.

trisher Thu 26-Mar-20 10:33:18

Boris has now refused an EU offer of help and equipment. Really! Brexit is more important than lives? www.linkedin.com/pulse/covid-19-uk-turns-down-eu-help-supply-medical-equipment-jon-danzig/?fbclid=IwAR38O3C72G0uifQzHrWDdDYumk5YWbfzy2_WRLtvqJZ8CZgpRDM173Ro5k4

Parsley3 Wed 25-Mar-20 13:53:07

Khan has said that there are so many rail staff off sick or self isolating that it is not possible to run a full service.

Greymar Wed 25-Mar-20 13:47:07

more trains? er no, I don't think so

lemongrove Wed 25-Mar-20 13:05:08

You are wrong trisher and Khan is too!
By cutting trains on the tube he has forced workers to cram together, what a fool the man is.
We need more trains so people can spread out on them, so hope the government puts this right.

Labaik Wed 25-Mar-20 12:58:16

And Johnson wouldn't even allow Sadiq Khan to attend the first COBRA meeting [you know, the emergency one that had to wait because he wanted to announce his baby/engagement that weekend...].

GagaJo Wed 25-Mar-20 12:29:37

I don't always agree with you trisher, but in this case, I do. 100%

trisher Wed 25-Mar-20 12:26:11

There are also those who just accept and blindly follow and then complain when things are worse than expected. There is nothing wrong with criticising especially when other countries and leaders have handled things better. This is about protecting the NHS, slowing the transmission rate and dealing with the virus rather than protecting the economy and profit and that is why criticism is valid. Sadiq Khan has effectively done his best to protect London but has been undermined by this government from the very beginning.

GrannyLaine Wed 25-Mar-20 11:58:02

henetha in any crisis situation there are those who do the right thing and crack on, and there are those who try to make themselves look better by their "know better" attitude which is all very well when they have absolutely no accountability for the overall situation or the outcome.

trisher Wed 25-Mar-20 11:23:31

The experts say close down. Scotland has done it. It's Boris's responsibility. The bodies are at his door.

henetha Wed 25-Mar-20 11:20:53

Because I think you are wrong. He is not effectively saying that at all. He is guided by experts, as are all leaders, and has done what he thinks is right so far. How would you like to be leader at this dreadful time.? I wonder if you would get everything right? I certainly would not. It's so easy to criticise when it's not us making the decisions.

trisher Wed 25-Mar-20 11:15:37

henetha if he had followed the advice of the experts and shut down all except safety construction work perhps I would feel differently. As it is he hasn't and isn't doing so. He is effectively saying that making money is more valuable than workers' lives and quite frankly I can't agree with that. You obviously feel it is OK can you explain why?