Boris..intensive care..

Those ‘many’ posters are also wrong ?

POGS....??You have said what many posters think.

Glad that Johnson seems to be improving and hope he will be out of hospital in a few days.

I’m sure the clinical team are very grateful and relieved for his positive engagement whilst remembering how he and his colleagues have treated the NHS over the years and their cheer for the pay freeze vote.

Heartened , and slightly amused, to hear that Boris is sitting up in bed, 'and engaging positively with the clinical team.'

BlueSky, I don't think like that and wouldn't wish harm on another human being.

However, I don't find it 'appalling' but quite understandable that others may hold these views.

As the government was so slow to react, so ineffective in organising the shutdown, did so little so late, others may blame them directly for all the needless loss of life.

Whereas I just see Boris et al as inept - others may view them as evil.

I have read posts, not on here but on fb, openly pleased that this virus has touched him like so many others. I find that appalling regardless of people's political beliefs.

Agree with the others POGS. It’s insulting and quite arrogant of you to tell those of us who wish him a speedy recovery but don’t like his policies that we’re effectively liars.

I'm neither turning Boris Johnson into a saint that would be a waste of time, nor am I asking you to agree with my opinions. I simply stated that it isn't unusual to find that men in positions of power have feet of clay and that Johnson is no different. It doesn't matter one iota if you share that opinion or not. And I'm not sure why you're being so snippy about it.

That is an awful thing to say POGS and untrue. No one wishes him harm even if they don’t rate him as a PM or a man. I am shocked by your post.

pogs own goal there. Very poor show.

Vegansrock. Good post. I’ve tried to say this before but nobody’s listening.

Why can’t some on here believe that anyone who dislikes Johnson’s behaviour and/ or politics can possibly be sincere in wishing him a positive recovery from this horrible illness? That doesn’t follow surely.

what a good idea newnanny. he will be protected and safe and looked after while still being our pm. Good luck to both him and Carrie, we are going to need his cheeriness more than ever as he steers us through the years of austerity ahead of us.

You know he can still be infectious while recovering?

Good news as Boris is improving. When he gets out he needs to go to Chequers to recuperate with Carrie.

Men in positions of power having feet of clay is as old as the hills. It crosses political divides, religions, creeds and cultures. Nothing news shattering there.

I am sure turning them into saints when anything happens to them is nothing news shattering either Chewbacca but that doesn't mean any person on here has to agree with that opinion even though the powers that be on this forum seem to think we either should or we should shut up.

Very undemocratic and I doubt it will do Johnson any good in the long run. Those who are put on pedestals are usually pulled down from them eventually. Let's hope this isn't the case this time and that he returns to do some good work.

You may Eloethan but not everyone has the same sense of decency, although most do.

It is rude of you POGS to suggest that those who are not fans of Johnson - of whom I am one - are not sincere in expressing the hope that he makes a full recovery.

It is quite possible to dislike someone without wishing them ill. Please don't presume you know what is inside other people's heads.

Chestnut

No I certainly did not mean you.

In fact it was reading various threads/posts by some who have declared their good wishes for Johnson's recovery but can't leave it at that they come back with posts that prove it was all a sham.

As I said previously it is what is known as having a common respect for understanding the value of ' the time and the place'.

Another analogy would be when someone tries to imply empathy or liking for something or someone and then throws in the curve ball of showing their true feeling by using ' however' or ' but' or going even further to discredit.

For the same reason you found it necessary to post that BJ is very flawed. Who isn’t?

Men in positions of power having feet of clay is as old as the hills. It crosses political divides, religions, creeds and cultures. Nothing news shattering there.

I'm not too sure why you are telling me that tickingbird. I'm sure some will find it enlightening though.

GGMK3 Martin Luther King was a womaniser and an adulterer as was JFK. Both revered as good men. I don’t see Boris as a saint but I do like him and I wish him well. I don’t dislike Jeremy Corbyn, I think he’s probably a good man but I wouldn't vote for him because I don’t agree with his politics.

I am quite sure that Boris knew exactly what he was doing with that photo shot and it was tongue-in-cheek.

It just can't be done can it, giving so much as even a day to not to attack a man whose health is so fragile.

Having coronavirus does not turn any human being into a saint POGS. He is very flawed but that makes him human and I am quite sure we all have sympathy for all those going through the worst of this disease and those who are caring for them and those whose balance of life is affected by this once (I hope) in a lifetime experience.

He is looked after, quite rightly because of his responsibilities, by the very best and I hope he soon recovers but that will never make me see him as the saint some are painting him to be or as anything other than the rest of those going through the same dreadful illness.