Are we getting a bit low?

I do wish that we, ie some posters, didn`t ridicule , another person`s post..

politeness and kindness please?

Jane1956. How on earth can we make China pay? How will that help to put things right?

My worst time was the second week but since then I've made sure that I got some fresh air most days, just going to the local park in my electric wheelchair made a huge difference for me, and I've been planting bulbs and plants for my plant pots both for my garden and for the communal garden so that's helped me a great deal. And the weather has helped - I've in the North West of England - and the sun has been so beneficial , just sitting outside and reading. I'm trying to take one day or week at a time and wait to see what happens with lockdown, and plan for my French holiday in the summer next year, the one that was planned for July this year: at least this way I've got another year to save up for it, so that's good!

Well said SirChengin. Don’t forget the one minute’s silence at 11this morning.

We are nowhere near “there”’sadly

Good morning everyone ?. I think as with most things in life people experience things differently. It does seem however that it's very common to have good days and occasional low days.
I think we will have to live with a new normal. This virus seems ever changing,or maybe just more is being understood. It still is very early days.
I have low days when feel anxious and wonder how this will all pan out. On those days I find it's best to avoid constant debate on tv/internet/social media. Often it seems to go in circles. No one truly has answers. One quote that made me smile was it's like living in the film Outbreak but theres no Dustin Hoffman to save us?.
On good days reach out to others virtually and spread the kindness.
On not so good days I think it's important to acknowledge the hurt but also that in many ways we are powerless which is hard. A mindfulness APP can help. So can remembering the love,bravery and kindness that is out there in the most difficult of times.

So looking forward to seeing DD and grandchildren, but we won't visit until we have isolated for 14 days to make sure we do not have the virus - but will risk that they might have it and keep 2M apart - hopefully weather will be good enough to sit in the garden - not sure about using the loo - will take alcohol wipes with me - DH thinks I am over =worrying as we haven't yet been told that we can see family or friends. Best to keep self -distancing until no more deaths or a vaccine has been found and try to avoid a second wave.

I agree with Oopsadaisy3 and SirChenjin.
We are a long way from ‘nearly back to normal’.
The new ‘normal’ is here to stay for a long time.
The scientists are expecting a second a third wave in the next few months.
By loosening lockdown in incremental stages they hope to flatten the curve and prevent a massive second wave.
I know this is very difficult for many people, but it has to be done.
This morning my heart goes out to all the parents home schooling their children, but because of the rain, cannot go out.

It was certainly odd at first, but now this odd state of affairs seems normal., and am definately not down in the mouth.
Luckily, l am well, and out and about, as per 6' guidelines, whilst limiting any supermarket forages.
All in all, l am very happy to be paid to stay at home, but am looking forward to starting work again hopefully in June.
Common sense should rule the day, so it's probably best to enjoy what you can while you can.

I think restrictions will gradually ease and this will have varying impacts on people, depending in their circumstances. For many, the main thing they want to do is spend time with family and friends and unless they’re very local, I think that won’t be possible for many months to come sadly. I think they will try to limit long journeys and general travel privately. We won’t see our family for a long while I’m sure, including going to my sons wedding that should have been next month....is now in October...but I doubt it will happen. I could go on....So, yes, it’s a struggle to keep upbeat for some people whereas for others, the coming months even years, will have less adverse effect.

I think we are a long way from normal and life is not going to be what it was before. Anyone expecting any different will be sorely disappointed. No medicine, no vaccine, economic difficulties for people. Many people also suffering the loss of loved ones. I don't see any normal. Where I do agree is we do need to have hope but much will depend on scientists.

Actually I feel quite upbeat in lockdown, maybe because my mobility limits what I can do at the best of times. With the help of my Son and Dil I've been catching up on getting my garden under control after a couple of years neglect. We've made great progress so far and now I can see the fence again on the right hand side I can see it needs replacing. So as soon as the wood is delivered we'll get stuck into that. We've shredded masses of branches etc to turn into mulch which is bagged up and put out of the way as best as we can. Hopefully the wood will arrive this week at least that's what they say and the green bin was also emptied today so we can start filling that up again. By the end of lockdown the garden will be transformed just have to buy a few more plants to fill some of the spaces we've created. Having others lockedown with me has been great for me and the garden otherwise I would have felt guilty at asking for help with the garden taking up their free time, which is why it's become somewhat overgrown in the first place. The only fly in the ointment lately is the tumble dryer deciding to give up the ghost but the current weather has helped but no outside line has proved to be a mistake in the short term at least. I might have to buy a retractable one if the washing piles up too much.

It was another Jane, not Jane10, who isn't even on this thread

Perhaps an apology would be nice.

So annoying when OP doesn’t come back to answer questions

ExD - because every non essential journey raises the risk of an accident (as you rightly said) and of requiring breakdown assistance. The former puts pressure on a health service that really doesn’t need it at the moment and the latter puts someone else at risk and increases the potential for transmission. If everyone thought that it was OK to go for a drive for their ‘mental health’ then those possibilities increase exponentially.

Er, it wasn't Jane10 it was someone called jane1956 who made that ridiculous post. Otherwise agree with everything you said BlueBelle

No, I don't think that it could have started anywhere. It's the growing wet markets and all that involves. The risk of transmitting disease to humans is well known.
I think that people are a bit down, mainly because there's no end in sight and no obvious way out of this.

@dragonfly46. Your daughter can, and indeed should, relieve you of the responsibility of her dog.
Call her and tell her to make arrangements to collect it.
Your heath and peace of mind should be paramount.

We are nowhere 'nearly there' the amount of virus deaths are still rising and the numbers arent including care homes and those in the community so none of us know the correct numbers. Its impossible to think positive with whats happening all around us.

oh for goodness sake Jane10 where’s the sense in your post
Did we have to pay for Mad Cow disease didn’t it start in U.K.
this is not the first pandemic it’s one of many in the last 100 years
Who ‘paid’ for Ebola, Aids, Sars, etc etc
Don’t be so vindictive it could have started anywhere

I am terrified that I might not see anyone at all for the rest of this year.

I am ok with lockdown and can cope with it, but I know people who are climbing the curtains they are so stressed about it.
Is there any reason why they can't jump in the car and go for a drive? If they stay in their car and don't mix with anyone else, surely the only antisocial thing they are doing is risking a road accident and using an ambulance (like someone was accusing horse riders of doing)?
I think people deal with it so differently it's best to stay home if you can, but if your mental health is going to be damaged - well got out there as long as you keep your distance.

There will be no ‘back to normal’ there will be a ‘new normal’ which won’t involve rushing to see the ACs or GCs.
We are locked down to prevent the strain on the NHS not to cure us of the virus!
If we all start to go out there will be a second wave that would probably overwhelm the NHS, so all our efforts will have been for nothing.
They might let certain age groups out for work or school at sometime, then let other age groups out if they are fit and well, but I don’t think it will be anywhere near normal until the Vaccine is out and heaven knows how long it will take to get us all vaccinated.
We might be nearer to Normal this time next year.

I'm not fed up with Lockdown as we are used to living in an isolated location but tomorrow DH has an appointment for his three monthly B12 injection at our GP surgery which is six miles away.

I can't tell you how much I'm looking forward to the drive (I'll take the scenic route) even waiting for him outside, which would normally make me impatient to be getting on with things.

I think I'll take Peggy the JR and give her a trip out as well.

We need to make China pay for all this