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soop Tue 28-Apr-20 12:21:07

Here we are again...all good pals and jolly good company.

WELCOME. Enjoy the treats on offer. All food virtually calorie-free. No washing of dishes permitted. Please relax and we'll raise a glass of cheer to each other. brew cafe wine Cheers!

soop Sat 30-May-20 16:37:59

morethan I wish that I had the answer to the pain that your family continues to have no choice other than to deal with virtually unaided. Throughtout the day, I've gone over and over your post. It's as I said earlier - I have no words of comfort for you. We are here and we will listen. Please continue to spend time in the kitchen, because you are assured of unlimited kindness. flowers

smile moon

cornergran Sat 30-May-20 15:48:25

Oh morethan, a truly awful situation. I’d like to add a quiet voice to the suggestions for hospice care to enable everyone to be stronger through a devastating process. Hospice staff are very special people and care for the whole family. Our local one continues to take patients although I know some aren’t, I can only hope some sort of support is available. If it helps there is nowhere better to share your reality than here. Please never think you can’t. My love to you all.

Pittcity Sat 30-May-20 14:03:48

Morethan this wretched virus is making everyone's life a misery mainly because we cannot hug those we love. This must be unbearable for you.
Much love xx

GrannyGravy13 Sat 30-May-20 13:18:30

morethan my heart goes out to you ???

Is it possible for you to have the GC, they should treasure happy memories of their dear Mum and perhaps with you they can talk about the fun times.

Your DS has some bg decisions to make soon and I hope he and the rest of your family find comfort in each other's love and strength

Grandmafrench Sat 30-May-20 13:01:53

Morethan, you must make your Son get help, darling. You cannot continue like this, nor must he or the children. If you ask for help for him, or at least alert your Surgery, there will be specialist agencies and help that will arrange for this torment to stop.

You Son must be going through hell, he needs to be there for his Wife but he doesn't need to be doing her physical care and worrying about everything else. He just needs to be there for her, making the most of her time left and having proper time to comfort and reassure your Grandchildren.

Your situation is awful. I can barely see to type for tears - there is no one who would not be moved to tears at your suffering and you have to reach out for help whilst you are all still able to do so. The tragedy of your DiL is more than enough without it reaching out and destroying her lovely family as well.

Please post and tell us that you have persuaded him to take some action, so that you all can be helped and protected and less desperate. There will be so much more time then made available for his poor Wife.

You're in all our thoughts. God bless your little family. xx

Purplepixie Sat 30-May-20 13:00:04

Hi all

Morethan - I am so sorry that you are having to go through this and I am sending you a massive virtual hug. CherryC - the message that you gave is spot on. I have nothing to add.

Stay safe and sane. X

soop Sat 30-May-20 12:27:13

Morethan I cannot find the words to express my sadness. Others have managed to do so. I cannot say or do anything to ease the pain that your family is experiencing. I am so very sorry.
CherryC Your message to morethan makes sound sense. The family is under such tremendous, relentless stress, I wish that someone connected with cancer care would step forward and intervene without delay.

CherryCezzy Sat 30-May-20 12:07:47

morethan I have my hand over my mouth and tears in my eyes so if I've been affected that way what all of you are going through must be almost unbearable.
I do think it would be kinder all round if your DiL could go into a hospice now. She would still receive loving care and you could then devote your loving care to those beautiful children. It must be so very painful for your son now too, devoted to his wife, wanting to support the children with all the love he can provide whilst obviously his heart must be breaking.
If a hospice bed cannot be found or your son cannot bear the idea then, like others have suggested here, the children ought to come to stay with you to protect them from experiencing more trauma, where you can provide a haven of love.
We all understand if you have not felt able to post or have the strength to post again for a while but I do hope you can draw a little strength from all our hearts because our hearts go out to you. ❤️

Charleygirl5 Sat 30-May-20 10:06:54

Morethan your son desperately needs help at home or your DiL be moved to a hospice. You need to have a few quiet words with him and then decide which of you will ring the surgery on Monday but you must state it as it is to the GP. The children should not be traumatised to this extent- my heart goes out to them. You are all living a hell on earth- please keep posting here if you have the strength.flowers

Greyduster Sat 30-May-20 09:30:03

I haven’t been in the kitchen for a while, but I have to just put a virtual arm around your shoulder, Morethan. I am moved to tears when I think of you all and your grandchildren. I agree that hospice care, if it is available to you at the moment, would be most helpful in this situation - they were brilliant with my DiL to the end. It took a lot of anxiety from my son and made his time with her easier to bear. Failing that, as Kitty says, for the children to come to you. Don’t ever feel that there is no place in the kitchen for what you are going through. Where better for you to turn?

Sar53 Sat 30-May-20 09:28:43

Morethan what an unbelievably sad post. I'm so so sorry for what you, your son and the children are going through, and your poor daughter in law how scared she must be.
We are all here for you whenever you need us. Much love xx

annsixty Sat 30-May-20 09:07:44

Morethan
I agree that if possible or if the family can let her, a hospice would be so good for them all.
She would be kept painfree as much as possible, her personal needs loving carried out and the children would have more attention than is possible now.
Is Hospice at home in the area, they are also very good in the right circumstance?
I feel for you all but the children are being traumatised by seeing their adored mummy suffering so much.

You have been a rock to them all, but don’t let your own needs be hidden or not appreciated, you are suffering for her but watching your son and your grandchildren hurt so much will take it’s toll on you.

You will all need lots of comfort, love and understanding when the inevitable happens and having been through a hundredth of what you are now going through I pray that this will be soon.
You really do need to experience it for yourself to know that most of us pray for an ending of it for everyone.

My love and prayers for you all to be given the strength to cope are sent.

I hope she is soon at peace.

Susan56 Sat 30-May-20 08:14:47

morethan,what a dreadful time for your family made worse by the lockdown meaning that all the people who want to physically help and support you all aren’t able to.You are being such a brilliant support to your son and grandchildren.
Please keep posting if it helps you,you need support to.
We send our thoughts,prayers and strength to you and your family.?

kittylester Sat 30-May-20 08:05:53

I read but don't post so much lately, morethan but your post is just too sad. I do wish there was something, anything, we could do to help. Is there a posibility that your DiL could go to a hospice? Or the children just come to you? You are doing brilliantly to be so supportive but it must be hard. If it helps to post - please do. flowers

dragonfly46 Sat 30-May-20 08:03:28

Oh Morethan how dreadful for you all. Your DiL must be quite strong to have hung on so long. Could she not go to a hospice where they are trained to cope. Your son and those lovely children are suffering so much.
Just know my thoughts and best wishes are with you flowers

jacq10 Sat 30-May-20 08:01:23

What can we say morethan2? You will have so many friends on here who will want to help you deal with this but what can anyone do. It's good you are still following Gransnet as it can help. I haven't been good since a fall nearly five weeks ago and think for the first time in my life have been depressed about things and I'm the one in our small family that copes with everything. Had to nurse my mother through cancer over 40yrs ago and that was hard but what you are going through must be unbearable. Do keep reading Gransnet as you will have many friends here and that will give you strength to cope with this and do shed your tears and make time to listen to your music and drama. You are invaluable to your family.

morethan2 Sat 30-May-20 07:41:36

Morning all. I don’t drop in as much because there’s nothing but unadulterated misery to report. Sometimes we think things can’t get worse then they do..they do. My DiL is now almost bed bound. My son has to feed her, toilet her all in their living room. A lot of the time I’m unsure she knows what’s happening, worse still if she does she can’t make herself understood. The steroids have made her gain so much weight she can barely move and if she does it takes two or three people to help. The last major seizure was so distressing our youngest was found huddled in a corner with her hands over her ears to block it all out. Our 10 year old won’t come out of his bedroom if he can help it and the oldest is traumatised because during the last episode wouldn’t leave her mum. Our son is exhausted he’s aged and looks older than his dad.. I’m not sure how much longer he can cope physically and emotionally. My DiL can’t be comforted by having her friends visit. She’s very close to her cousins but they aren’t able to come to see her, how must that feel to her. Sat in the darkness sometimes for hours with no company because my son is looking after the housework and three unsettled children. There’s not a lot I can do but watch this torture and torment go on and on and on. I told you it was pure misery. I do have the children if their really distressed to give them and my son some respite. I do shopping and go and see my DiL but I cry in the car home after seeing such misery. I feel so helpless to help. The youngest asked for a diary, you know how little girls of that age love them. So I asked if she’d been keeping it and she told me “yes I write in it every day asking for my mummy to get better and see again” it’s the little things that often get to me. It’s the sadness of the situation it’s knowing that things are going to get worse for everyone concerned that’s hard to bear. See this is why I don’t post or talk about it to friends (I’ve stopped phoning most people) because it’s unbearable to even think about it never mind talk about it. I hope I haven’t spoilt your morning. To those who have pm me I know I haven’t answered and I’m sorry but it’s just to harrowing and I’ve become ‘stuck’ almost paralysed. I can’t get hardly anything done. I can’t read, I don’t go for walks as much as I could or should. I’ve got plants waiting to be planted they’ll be dead soon if I don’t get on. All I do is the bear minimum. Flit round with the duster, hoover, cook boring easy meals. I mostly listen to music or drama on the radio, watch old reruns on television oh I do lurk on gransnet but nothing constructive ever gets done.

Doodle Fri 29-May-20 19:46:16

Hello all. Hope you are all ok. DH is rapidly becom8ng a work of art. A delightful merging of black, purple, blue, mauve, yellow and beige ? Fortunately, he is feeling better now the bruising is coming out and he has started sleeping better too. Hope everyone else with painful bits are on the mend.
Waiting for our Sainsbury’s delivery tonight. Lots of items missing but we will make the most of what is coming
TOYA?

Grandmafrench Fri 29-May-20 19:34:00

You are so right, Anno , and there are so many little bones in feet which can be damaged and never be right again. Smileless eeeugh!!! You are so much braver than me!. We take our poor feet for granted, they carry so much and don't complain. I shall take your very good advice and am now promising myself that I will take much more care.

What a lovely gesture to arrange proper afternoon tea for you...."so British", as the French love to say. (They can be real snobs about British things, customs and traditions! grin)
I'm afraid that I drink Earl Grey all of the time but when away from home, I'll gladly accept any tea offered. A wonderful afternoon tea, though, would not be the same without it!

What I'd give for a Waitrose! Interesting to read and to hear on this Forum, though, just how many people are deciding that they may not miss food shopping too much and are thinking about continuing to order food for delivery - especially from local shops.

Soop have you put a shilling in the meter? If your broadband speed is anything as bad as ours, you have my deepest sympathy. Hope you are feeling lots better and more comfortable today.

Those sunsets. They are absolutely divine. If I lived in your lovely Chocolate Box home with that view, I would never leave the window or the garden. I wish I could remember the name for the photograph "boxes" which one can buy and into which you load endless digital photographs which will change continuously and automatically when programmed, because I doubt that anyone would have enough walls to frame and display that kind of beauty as individual photos. Every moment the sunset changes, is the next photo taken going to be better, or the one after that? I get excited when the evening sky is turquoise, apricot and violet here and suddenly a flock of flamingoes drifts past; but looking at your skies over those islands is almost a religious experience!

I had a slightly surreal experience today but was so pleased. Having been not very keen on having an eye test in a different way from the UK and not knowing the Doctor who did the test, I was not looking forward to it. It was a huge success and without problems. He was so kind but actually got the giggles when the machine testing my sight kept steaming up at intervals from my mask. The conversation then went on repeat - he would say "oh, the fog is coming in"; I would say "I'm so sorry"; he would then wipe the machine with a little cloth and say "don't worry, you can't help it, it's the mask". Then it would happen again. When I came out to leave, he walked to the door with me. I haven't been going anywhere very much during lockdown, so am really not used to coping with masks and mixing or speaking with people socially.

But we found my DH in conversation in a huge reception area where there was simply a lovely modern painting, a terraced area behind a wall of glass with pots and plants, air conditioning, two huge sofas which were taped off except for ONE seat. One other chair and two chairs in the 3 corners of the room. So, there was the receptionist (a man), a patient - a diver, apparently, my DH who was allowed in to this calm and uncrowded scene to pay, and then me and the Doctor. We were all wearing masks, except the Doctor's dog who was quietly lying under a table and staying cool. It was so amusing to have a conversation, speaking very clearly through our masks, a long way apart and laughing at something which was said, without any of the facial expressions. Every one - except me and the dog - in shorts, nice shirts and loafers, everyone being optimistic about next week but all wondering whether opening up bars, restaurants and cafés and encouraging tourists from the north to flock to the south is actually a good idea. Is Tuesday too soon? The Doctor felt that since no one knows, we'll have to just be careful and give it a try.

Hope that Friday evening is happy for everyone. Nearly June, amazing, and getting steadily nearer to freedom for all.
Stay safe, please. Hugs from France x

annodomini Fri 29-May-20 18:46:17

Wonderful surprise for me today. DiL ordered afternoon tea for me from our local tearoom. She is 150 miles away and said she would be taking me out for afternoon tea all other things being equal. The tearoom had put together a lovely tea, everything you could wish for except the tea, but I have Earl Grey to hand. How lucky am I?
A lovely day for sitting in a friend's garden - I'd have shared my tea party with her but she is gluten intolerant. sad It's now a beautiful evening and I am going to go and see if there is a queue outside Waitrose.
Smileless and Grandmafrench, please look our for your toes. A damaged toe makes life really uncomfortable. The first time for me, I was 15 and some fool dropped a bench on my big toe. Luckily it was summer and I wore my nice new pink sandals all the time. Next time, I dropped a large wooden pastry board on my little toe which flapped all summer long. I was condemned to wear flip-flops all summer. So, it it's not too much of a contortion, keep an eye on your feet.
soop, you are indomitable, but please continue to unload on us as and when necessary. xxxx sunshine

soop Fri 29-May-20 17:43:56

Something strange has been happening here on Gransnet. I've made a few attempts to log in during the afternoon. Have only just managed to do so.

Thinking of you all. Until we meet again. smile moon

soop Fri 29-May-20 12:35:12

I am extremely fond of you lovely lot. You are far better than any pill or potion. Thank you.

soop Fri 29-May-20 12:33:06

Grandmafrench I am pleased to hear that you allowed the spider to run free. I am afraid of them. However, I ask MacS to use the tumbler-removal method and he is happy to do so.
Your toe will be throbbing right now. Toes and fingers...ouchy parts of our anatomy when damaged. flowers

dragonfly I understand how you are feeling. I remind myself that patience is a virtue...our time to meet with loved ones will come.

Cherryc Thank you for your lovely, kind message. You are inspirational. I'm pleased that your interview was successful.

Smileless The very thought of having a dislocated joint returned to it's rightful socket makes me squirm.

The sky last night was breathtakingly colourful. I took so many photos. I shall share three for you to enjoy.

soop Fri 29-May-20 12:16:02

Dear Izabella I am hoping that the fog lifts and that very soon, you feel the sunshine on your face.

Izabella Fri 29-May-20 10:19:03

dragonfly you are in my thoughts. flowers

Too much going on in the kitchen for me to comment on anything else as feeling a tad 'foggy' today.

TOYA

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