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Shielded, what does it really mean?

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Megs36 Sat 09-May-20 13:12:08

Bit late to ask this, now 7 weeks in. The Letter plainly states stay in and stay apart, use separate bathrooms, kitchens and eat apart.only go out or see anyone in an emergency. So we haven’t seen anyone face to face, not slept together, obviously some of these ‘rules’ can’t be followed exactly (separate bathrooms etc), however we haven’t left the house except to go into our tiny garden, since March 18th.but I get the impression some who say they are shielded are going walking, and meeting family albeit at a distance. I feel more than isolated and wonder if we have mis read the instructions all this time

Megs36 Sun 10-May-20 15:18:01

My appointment involves a suspect ‘spot’ on my face, difficult to see on the phone. My comment is NOT there.

Megs36 Sun 10-May-20 15:20:29

Again my post not shown, is it something I said?

Megs36 Sun 10-May-20 15:21:02

Last one suddenly popped up.

Megs36 Sun 10-May-20 15:23:09

How can you tell if your comment is deleted.

Elegran Sun 10-May-20 15:24:14

Are you sure it was on this thread? Sometimes you can post something on the wrong comment and not be able to find it. If it was on this thread and had been deleted it would say ""comment deleted." What did the missing comment say, approximately ?

Callistemon Sun 10-May-20 15:25:45

It says other that it has been deleted as against GN guidelines or at the poster's request.

The whole post doesn't just disappear.
Sometimes I have typed a post and it will not post then disappears but that is my internet.

Callistemon Sun 10-May-20 15:27:02

Either not other

Sometimes a post makes sense, you press post and gobbledegook appears as autocorrect changes it.

Elegran Sun 10-May-20 15:39:58

*Megs I have carefully read all this thread, and I can't see any acrimony against anyone, either against you or against anyone else. You say you "wonder if we have misread the instructions all this time" and a few postes say that they interpret them a different way to you, or think that perhaps different versions have been sent to different sets of people. That is all.

The delay in your posts appearing is nothing to do do with any posters, or with the Gransnet admin people.

suziewoozie Sun 10-May-20 15:44:13

Megs those of us correcting/ disagreeing with you are NOT being , acrimonious. Your post about how shielded people should live together was incorrect and could have worried/ upset people. You cannot post incorrect interpretations of important advice and complain when its corrected/disagreed with. This is a PUBLIC forum not your own private chat page.

Megs36 Sun 10-May-20 15:47:16

Wot?

Megs36 Sun 10-May-20 15:48:33

Rufus...where is the naughty stool???

suziewoozie Sun 10-May-20 15:51:12

No Elegran I don’t think there are different versions. The instructions for separate beds etc clearly apply to a situation where a shielded person is living with a non-shielded person who goes out of the house - shopping, working whatever. My friends who are shielding ( she has to, he joined her) would be having a desperate time if they were living separately in their house. Constantly cleaning the kitchen and the one bathroom, eating separately , spending all their time in separate rooms. I know some people are having to live like this because the non shielded one has to work and they are naturally finding it very hard.

suziewoozie Sun 10-May-20 15:53:07

It’s not funny Megs it’s no laughing matter. How childish.

patcaf Sun 10-May-20 16:03:45

Well I am supposedly vulnerable. Just getting over cancer and two major ops and supposedly over 70s' have suddenly become weak and feeble. We walk every day, often twice. Living in the country means we rarely see anyone on our walks. We still do our garden and go shopping once a week. Nearest supermarket is 15 miles away and we could get deliveries but we need to get out for our own sanity. Yes we take precautions about meeting people but do not clean groceries or anything like that. Life is a risk and too short now to spend it indoors. I take anything the govmt says with a pinch of common sense. I intend to get on with my life as much as possible.

Bobdoesit Sun 10-May-20 16:07:36

You haven’t misread the instructions (suggestions?) but other people seem to be ignoring them.
We live in a quiet village so have continued to walk two or three times a week. If we happen to see anyone else we make sure we are a minimum of 2 meters away – even if that means climbing a bank or diving into a field!
We’ve not seen any friends or family for 7 weeks and counting.
My husband was told to shield for health reasons and that is what we are doing. Having just read the letter again I think we will be at home until the beginning of June, which is fine with us. Our food and medications are delivered so we are more than grateful for that.
The only fly in the ointment is our neighbours who think it’s OK to party in their back gardens at any old time of night or day! Family members turn up in cars from goodness knows where. It’s utter madness and makes me quite cross! The trouble is it will only get worse if Boris changes things tonight.

Pamelahuke1 Sun 10-May-20 16:08:04

My husband is 75 and ‘shielded’ because he has blood cancer. He had the original letter and has just had a text to say the period of shielding is being extended to 30th June. That makes a total of 16 weeks.
Neither my husband or myself have not been outside our house and garden since mid March. We have all food delivered. I wash or disinfect everything that enters the house. My husband is registered on the shielding nhs site and we get priority slots for interenet shopping. We are being looked after very well and kept well informed by our surgery, local authority and nhs. We have been offered food parcels to make sure we have essential supplies.
We do not anticipate going outside our home for quite a few months, and possibly only when vaccine is found.
We are lucky we do not have to leave our home. We are not taking any chances.
Once the lock down is relaxed, even a little, the danger of catching cv19 increases.

Rufus2 Sun 10-May-20 16:16:37

Rufus...where is the naughty stool???
Megs Hang on a bit! It's 1.10am Monday and I might need it myself later today! grin
If our Premier unlocks the cell door later today and if the car battery isn't flat after all this time, I'll nip out and pick up another!
Meanwhile keep your head down! Aliens are about tonight! shock
Good Health
OoRoo

Callistemon Sun 10-May-20 16:17:56

We can't see the naughty stool because Rufus is permanently on it.

Oo Roo

Callistemon Sun 10-May-20 16:19:36

Take care, Rufus even after your lockdown has eased.
I hear Queensland has already done that.

Rufus2 Sun 10-May-20 16:35:24

Queensland has already done that
Can't tear myself away! That's why the inhabitants are known as "Banana Benders!" grin
OoRoo to you too!

Callistemon Sun 10-May-20 16:40:13

Just be thankful for Queensland farmers and all their hard work when you buy your fruit which is full of Queensland sunshine and vitamins!

CBBL Sun 10-May-20 16:53:34

My Husband got the "Extremely Vulnerable" letter from the Government, as he has a number of different health problems, but these include "oral chemo" on a weekly basis. I am Vulnerable, and we are both over 70, have diabetes and Arthritis. He Flatly refuses to sleep without me. We do have an en-suite which he mostly uses, as well as a main bathroom. I make most of the meals, as he is a "bit wobbly" and needs a walking stick. He makes cups of tea and can manage to make toast. Neither of us go out. We've had a couple of "Food Parcels" from the Government, but cancelled these (many things were included that are not suitable for Diabetics). We now have a Volunteer from our nearest town, to do our shopping. Haven't been out of our home except for a quick look around the garden once or twice a week. Hubby has skin cancer, so can't sit in the sun. We cope because there is no reasonable alternative!

Megs36 Sun 10-May-20 17:21:28

Bob, Pam andCBBL, sorry for all your problems but glad you are agreeing with some of the ‘rules’ as are we. we can only do what we think is right for us and our particular health troubles.
.Best wishes.

NfkDumpling Sun 10-May-20 17:43:41

It's quite a relief to know Mr Sainsbury had no record of you shielding either. DH is apparently not on the list either. And there's no right of appeal it seems. Waitrose was like swimming in mid and we got nowhere. Luckily Tesco were more cooperative and we've managed to get slots with them - even though it meant staying up very, very late once or twice.

GrauntyHelen Sun 10-May-20 18:09:48

you are shielded and doing the right thing People going for walks etc may be on the vulnerable list thats permitted You are not on the vulnerable list if you have a shielding letter you are on the high risk list