PMs message

Oh come on now lemongrove! It was all supposed to be about democracy and was allegedly a universal principle. Don't tell me it was a slogan to fool people. Tut tut!

All people either matter or they don't.

I couldn’t possibly comment ?

theonlynamenottaken What has changed is that the furlough scheme has been cut, so people will be forced back to work, even if their workplaces are unsafe. It was all smoke and mirrors to cover up the main changes.

It was a phrase employed by many about the result of the Brexit vote, I have never heard it applied to anything else either before or after.

So you think those people who are confused are thick lemongrove?

I didn't even mention Brexit!! Surely the will of the people is a universal principle and applies in all situations.

theonlynamenottaken there have been GN members admitting meeting up with family members for a socially distanced chat which ended with them hugging their GC........we are not likely to hug a stranger! Which is probably part of the reason not to meet up with GC

Boris seems not to have consulted the other 3 nations that make up the UK.I live in Scotland and we are keeping lockdown which is a good thing. Lets get very few deaths for several days then slowly come out of lockdown. Are big business pushing Boris.

On R4 this morning debate was can you meet 1 person from your family outside in a park if it is no further than 60 miles away from your home ? Dominick R says yes then OK if both parents as long as they are under 70 then says from same household ? I understand that a family member can meet another family member outside and with social distancing? And are babies counted?

Not too much has changed except unlimited daily exercise. The message has always been go to work if its possible to socially distance but otherwise dont. I think its confusing that you can socially distance from people you meet in the street but avoid family.

The will of the people ( i.e accepting that there were more voting for Brexit than voting to stay in the EU) does not apply
In this situation......how is even mentioning it relevant?

The message was clear enough as many on here have already said, so yes, am wonderingly slightly about those who seem to be permanently confused.

People now being advised to wear a mask in public places; too late for all of those people that possibly got infected on the tube today. Even then the advice seems to have been dismissed by some members of the government this morning. But now later the advice seems to have changed. It's all clear as mud. Even MP's don't seem to know what advice the government is giving out.

Sawsage Are we all boxers now? Don't they have red and blue corners?

Having just scrolled back a few pages, I'm really quite shocked at the number of people who have called other people stupid.

Whatever happened to the "will of the people"?

If people find an allegedly simple message confusing, it's because it was communicated badly.

If you're a red you will find fault with it. If you're a blue you wont. Simples?

In WW2, there were very strict civil obedience laws in place "Annie1*. There was also a competent PM and government.

Exactly Lillypops. It's just downright stupidity. Not only will the children be spreading infection, but their teachers and other school staff won't be provided with adequate PPE.

Do the people who are amazed at others for finding the message was confusing think that those other people are thick?

Year one can go back to school and play , hug each other. Lick each other, but no mention of the 10 family members that could meet up who have been isolating , you can go in a park and sit there ,but not there !, I get that year 6 need to get back to prepare for secondary school in September , but the rest doesn’t make sense to me and DH ,

Calendargirl I don't know where you live but all the teachers I know have been working every day, devising and delivering online lessons and doing all sorts of planning and assessments behind the scenes. Many of them have had their own children at home too.

Good post Toadinthehole

As for those people who are on furlough with their employers making up their money

The government are making up their money. Let's get it right.

The magic money tree will soon wither and the deficit will have to be paid

Would you like to explain just where the government is getting the money from and why, and to whom, do you think the deficit will have to be paid?

I just cannot understand why some people wanted more detail. If he had sat there for hours giving detail then they would moan that his talk was too long.

Today’s Parliament should tell us more of what we want to know. Most detractors are anti Tory pro Labour people who will never be satisfied by anything the government does. As for those people who are on furlough with their employers making up their money as well, many on Mumsnet tell us how they have enjoyed the lockdown and have no desire to return to work. The magic money tree will soon wither and the deficit will have to be paid and the economy needs to get back on track. I often wonder how many younger people would have coped with WW2. The virus comes nowhere near what we experienced then.

The very best action should have had each point succinctly written in large black letters on huge white cards which Boris could have removed one by one and dropped on the floor (we've all seen those ads)
Government could and should also have arranged for letters to be posted to every home address with the necessary info sectioned into 5 - 6 bullet points, again in large thick black lettering on plain white paper in crystal- mark English.
No waffle, just the fewest words possible so there could not be any misinterpretation.
Stick it on your fridge door for all to see and be reminded.

I believe we are still living in the court of 'the King's New Clothes' as we were before Brexit.
Boris Johnson has all the communication skills of a Twerp.