PMs message

Clear and well thought through.

Cold all the posters using George Lucas’s amusing FB sketch please acknowledge it?
As far as I am concerned, Stay Alert means “Think for yourself, exercise common sense and be prepared”
(That was incidentally another slogan I used to like but I dare say it would be questioned every which way on GN)

I went into my town park this morning, and it seems like people have taken the so called "clear" message from PM to do as they please.

Very busy in park despite colder weather, some groups clearly not families, and in the town lots of workmen around, not all distancing, and roads quite busy despite most shops being closed.

I am sure I heard the PM say that workers who couldn't work from home could go back to work today, but today Raab says Wednesday.

Businesses are still waiting for official guidelines. Cart before the horse springs to mind.

Alexa
..........spoon fed obviously approves of slight government control

And? Your point is? I understand we live in a democracy, which means that people can ‘approve’ of left or right wing governments.

As far as I’m concerned I used the expression spoon fed in relation to other posters because so many of them appear to have been unable to understand the message from yesterday. It was perfectly clear, but does rely on people being able to interpret the information and apply it to their own situation. It seems many can’t!

Nannan/old people in and around my village have most certainly not been using the buses (because being 70+ they have been staying in ) even on the weekly market day.
A bus occasionally trundles through the village (we have 2 an hour) and if it passes me on my way out to walk Hattie or on my way back I can say hand on heart there have never been any passengers.

If nothing else this thread has identified those who seem incapable of thinking for themselves, planning their own lives and generally using their own common sense.

I am convinced some must have been watching a different PM’s broadcast to the one I saw as the brief outline Boris gave was perfectly clear to me.

Ok he didn’t go into too much detail but we will learn more later today.

I agree, MaizieD, he said ‘ actively encouraged’ to go to work, but didn’t specifically mention Wednesday ( though on the graphic the drawing of the wee workman was positioned along with the bicycle and park bench or whatever).
I feel it’s easy for those of us who have only to decide whether to stay at home or go out for exercise or essential supplies to say the message was clear, but we shouldn’t be saying that confusion regarding getting to work, using public transport, or childcare by people whose circumstances are a bit more complicated means they have no common sense or don’t understand English. ‘ Be kind’ didn’t last long, did it?

Meeting with family but only those living in your home.

Nannan
Why arent we doing what the other 3 british nations are doing then,if were a 'UNITED KINGDOM'???AND WHAT DOES THE QUEEN THINK OF THIS UNPLANNED PLAN

Because different parts of the UK are undergoing different conditions. Scotland has a higher infection rate than England, Wales I understand likewise..
The question should perhaps be “Why are we not dovetailing the guidelines to different areas of the country?”
The NW has overtaken London, for instance.
I imagine it would be horrendously difficult to enforce, but I am sure Andy Burnham in Manchester could find a way.
What does the Queen think?
Who knows?

Think Johnson's speech was good? Read this:— www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/10/smart-suit-brushed-hair-it-was-just-the-speech-that-was-a-total-mess

I agree with blubber. Why send the little ones back to school first? They can easily learn at home with parents and social distancing,washing hands etc a nightmare for teachers at school. Let year 6 go back if safe because they will be preparing to move on to secondary schools in September but leave the little ones at home.

Quote from the Mail today: 'The chairman of the British Medical Association (BMA), Dr Chaand Nagpaul, said the Government had created confusion in its messaging, adding that there was still 'a considerable amount of community circulation of the virus going on'.

He added: 'If we now allow the public to go to local parks in an unlimited sense, and to go outdoors... what we've not heard is how the Government will enforce social distancing and how it will avoid a whole neighbourhood playing in a park, with footballs moving from one group to another, and spreading the disease.

'So, I'm really concerned that there is no clarity.'

Sadly it seems that the Chairman of the British Medical Association does not have the clarity of understanding of some posters.

Raab appeared to contradict quite a few points in PMs speech today, and it looks like the whole plan is descending into shambles.

Pictures in Mail on line showed M25 in Kent far busier than usual this morning, and Jubilee Line busy, as was Canning Town tube platform, as presumably people on way to work as advised.

Explanation of the new slogan from a marketing/psychological angle. (You should be able to view thgis without having signed up to Facebook)

www.facebook.com/scientistsforeu/videos/2664289803816535/

So if people watched Domnic Rabb this morning and were told they could go and visit parents, went, andthen later be told he didn't mean that, you can only meet one parent out side social distancing , what kind of message is that??

Or the people who only got 12 hours notice to return to work, then told after they had left, no actually you are here on wrong day , meant to be Wednesday ?

You can meet someone outside but you can't sit in your garden 2 metres apart and meet the same person?

Clarity it isn't

Why would any sensible person travel into work today without consulting their boss/line manager/HE Dept?

Do they have to be micro managed in every aspect of their lives? I cannot believe people are that stupid!!!

I rather fear we’ve lived in a nanny state for too long and a lot of people have forgotten how to think for themselves and common sense is a lost skill.

What happened to the ability to think sideways use guidelines to work in individual situations? Should the Government be expected to send someone to every house and business in the land to talk them through what they should and shouldn’t be doing?

GrannyGravy
micro managed I love it! I got picked up for using the term spoon fed, apparently that’s right wing
But you’re right, I’m simply amazed at the number of posters who think yesterday’s message was confusing.

NfkDumpling

Exactly! There appears to be a total lack of any ability to listen, comprehend, and apply to their own individual situation.

I come from a health and safety background. I stay alert but other persons don't stay alert and bump into me and infect me. or I take evasive action and bump into someone else. All a bit dodgy.

We like Boris, and thought his message was positive and clear. You’re always going to have an element of people who don’t understand, or people who do....but don’t like it. He has given us more freedom, but still only in our household groups. He said nothing about seeing people outside of those groups, but if you do, so while exercising etc, to remain two metres apart. We still can’t mix with people outside our households. So no visiting family..yet. He didn’t tell people they have to go back to work period. He said IF you can.....and it can be done safely. I would challenge anyone who thinks they can do better, to hold their hands up and volunteer! The government members all look exhausted, and I’m tired of hearing people bad mouth them

Well said Toadinthehole.

But you’re right, I’m simply amazed at the number of posters who think yesterday’s message was confusing.

You were one of the ones who was absolutely positive that Johnson said to go back to work on Wednesday, maddyone. Could you just cast your eyes over the transcript I posted and point out exactly where he said that, please?

I think part of the problem for some posters is that too many people are thinking for themselves and coming to the conclusion that Johnson's speech is mostly a load of confused garbage which would really have been best left unsaid.

I believe we are still living in the court of 'the King's New Clothes' as we were before Brexit.
Boris Johnson has all the communication skills of a Twerp.

The very best action should have had each point succinctly written in large black letters on huge white cards which Boris could have removed one by one and dropped on the floor (we've all seen those ads)
Government could and should also have arranged for letters to be posted to every home address with the necessary info sectioned into 5 - 6 bullet points, again in large thick black lettering on plain white paper in crystal- mark English.
No waffle, just the fewest words possible so there could not be any misinterpretation.
Stick it on your fridge door for all to see and be reminded.