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GabriellaG54 Sun 10-May-20 19:20:05

Well, whaddya think?

I thought he came across very well. No long words. No faffing. Plain and simple.

trisher Tue 12-May-20 10:00:42

I see that the guidelines now say no more than 15 children in a reception class - that's a bit of new information. Quite who is going to take the classes hasn't been decided I suppose, because of course reception class teachers can be anyone can't they? it's not a specialist area at all. It's all been so well thought out hasn't it?!!!

MaizieD Tue 12-May-20 10:09:34

GG54

Your post at 09.40

In the well known words of a TV interviewer to Boris Johnson "You are a nasty piece of work, aren't you?"

Jabberwok Tue 12-May-20 10:17:13

To those who can't seem to understand what Boris is telling us, surely to God you can understand the professional people standing either side of him, people he defers to and back up what he is saying in simple, baby language that my 10 year old grandson can understand?! Boris did say that as from today we can relax a little over outside exercise (the scientists backed him) next week certain of us can go back to work with provisos, cautiously and carefully. Rogue employers are to be reported. Use common sense, ask if you are unsure! What's so difficult not to understand? Incidentally our refuge collectors have been and are working through this pandemic, with two of them in the lorry as usual so presumably other people can also devise similar ways to work collectively and safely!

Jabberwok Tue 12-May-20 10:19:47

I think you'll find that was said by Anna Sourbury to John McDonnell on Question Time!

Nanna58 Tue 12-May-20 10:19:57

Trisher, I loved your post! As a Reception teacher for many years, I used to watch with interest as those who opted for this year group( we were 3form entry) “ because it’s a doddle isn’t it? ) were virtually nervous wrecks well before the Spring term! ?

GabriellaG54 Tue 12-May-20 10:24:24

MazieD
I think it was a good analogy. No nasty words in that post or allusions to anyone in particular, unlike yours to me.
It takes all sorts. You are just one.

GabriellaG54 Tue 12-May-20 10:25:28

MazieD MaizieD

Lucca Tue 12-May-20 10:36:17

It was said to Boris Johnson. I watched that. (The nasty piece of work remark)

MaizieD Tue 12-May-20 10:39:21

No Jabberwok. It was said by Eddie Mair to Boris Johnson a few years ago. I expect I could find a video clip of it if you want confirmation.

MaizieD Tue 12-May-20 10:42:13

Whoops, I got the wrong post, GG54

It's the 09.33 one. Quite horrible and completely uncalled for. Not even your 'quarrel'...

Whitewavemark2 Tue 12-May-20 10:45:14

It is just as well that Starmer only had 6 minutes to question Johnson. As it was Johnson failed to reply to a single question posed to him from the wording in the 50 page document.

This is the prime minister for gods sake. We are all entitled to expect him to at the very least answer to the document he has apparently produced.

Interestingly the scientists have made it clear that they were not consulted before the various stages were decided on, so Johnson is being guided only by himself.

GabriellaG54 Tue 12-May-20 10:46:05

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Nanna58 Tue 12-May-20 10:52:39

If you don’t like someone commenting on things not directly said to them don’t post on a public forum GabriellaG. Oh dear, I seem to have done just what you so dislike....

Grandad1943 Tue 12-May-20 10:58:31

In regard to those enquiring as to my style of writing in my posts on this forum, I can assure them that only I ever type or use voice recognition to make those posts.

In regard to using a formal style of writing that is without doubt because much of what I type or dictate in the course of my work has to be formal as those documents often go forward to company employee disciplinary or grievance hearings or the Industrial Courts (industrial tribunals).

The Legal Secretaries in the company always proofread all documents I and others compile before adding their own findings to such documents. They always write very formally and therefore I always TRY to emulate that so as not to give them to much work in editing my documents.

At home and for this forum, I do try to write less formally, but as some have noticed after spending at times all day writing in a formal manner I do not always succeed, or it comes out as a mixture of the two. ?

Anyway, coffee break over, back to the working grindstone.

trisher Tue 12-May-20 10:59:23

Nanna58 I know and add to that the effort of trying to social distance them and not touch them!!!! I did Reception a couple of times in my career and coped (just) but it left me with everlasting respect for those who did it year in year out. And were brilliant at it.

Jabberwok Tue 12-May-20 12:14:39

That's as may be but Anna Sourbry certainly made the same comment to John McDonnell on the 16th Sept 2016 during Question Time.

MaizieD Tue 12-May-20 13:29:26

I make that one all, Jabberwok.
But Eddie Mair got it in first... March 2013. So a bonus point to me..

Maremia Tue 12-May-20 13:35:23

If you are worried about yourselves, or your youngsters, going back to work in a situation where COVID prevention preparations have not been made e.g. proper PPE, plastic barriers, enough hand sanitation and much, much more, advise them to join a union asasp. The union can take the flack, if they need to complain. If they make the complaint themselves, they run the risk of being sacked. Yes, this has happened.

lemongrove Tue 12-May-20 13:42:35

.....and before that Winston Churchill said that to somebody,
And before that Queen Victoria said it of somebody else.?
How far back shall we go with this?

GabriellaG54 Tue 12-May-20 13:48:07

Didn't Nero say that to Caeser or did David say that to a lion? ??

Smileless2012 Tue 12-May-20 14:02:41

I'm not sure Gabriella but I'm pretty certain Eve said it to the serpentgrin.

lemongrove Tue 12-May-20 14:07:27

Haha Smileless I think ‘tis you who has the bonus point and not Maizie ?

Maremia Tue 12-May-20 14:13:50

Great post Emilymarie.

notanan2 Tue 12-May-20 14:32:47

I see that the guidelines now say no more than 15 children in a reception class - that's a bit of new information. Quite who is going to take the classes hasn't been decided I suppose, because of course reception class teachers can be anyone can't they? it's not a specialist area at all. It's all been so well thought out hasn't it?!!!

Most TAs my children had were more than capable of covering classes and several were ex teachers.

If it takes a TA AND a teacher to manage a class of 30 then you can easily have 15 in a room with one or the other

The KS1 classes are often split into smaller groups anyway: one with the TA and one with the teacher so I wouldnt see there being a problem.

The teacher is responsible for overall planninv but the TAs do a lot of the delivering anyway

Iam64 Tue 12-May-20 14:59:27

notanan2, how can one individual ensure that 15 5 year olds maintain social distance. How can the staff member maintain distance from a child who is distressed and needs a hug?
who is going to ensure every surface, every pencil, every piece of equipment is sanitised between classes.
I know the children need to return to school but I don't think it as simple as you suggest, that if one teacher and one ta can manage a class of 30, two classes of 15 is a doddle