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Found this on bbc news website. Clarifies it ?? Not really to me.
“ Following Mr Johnson's speech, No 10 confirmed a reciprocal deal with the government in Paris meant restrictions would not apply to passengers from France.
In a joint statement, the UK and French governments said they had agreed to "work together in taking forward appropriate border measures", adding: "This co-operation is particularly necessary for the management of our common border."
The statement added: "No quarantine measures would apply to travellers coming from France at this stage; any measures on either side would be taken in a concerted and reciprocal manner.
"A working group between the two governments will be set up to ensure this consultation throughout the coming weeks."
However, the announcement has raised questions about whether international travellers could avoid 14-days in isolation by passing through France on their way to the UK.”

What is the scientific evidence behind this decision?

Tbh I don’t know why I’m asking that, because there isn’t one is there?

Is it the Entente Cordiale ?!

I have asked this too but no answer.... why are arrivals from France exempt from quarantine?

Does anyone have a logical explanation that people can enter the UK on a ferry without the need to quarantine, from France and Ireland, but must go into quarantine if arriving in a ferry from Holland, Belgium etc.

MayBee70 in regard to your post @00:12, many people are working hard to ensure, as far as practically possible, that workers are protected as they return to their employment roles.

The problem being faced is that the Covid-19 hazard has to be factored into existing risk assessments for operations already carried out in workplaces. However, Covid-19 does not produce a hazard equal to all if incurred as age, gender and other underlining health conditions will vary the possible injury to health side of any risk assessment when being compiled.

In the above, an accurate and reliable risk assessment is a very difficult and time consuming operation to carry out in very many workplace situations, and even then those assessments will not always be fully comprehensive.

Good point notanan.

The last I heard there had been a few cases in London. When my children were small and having the usual children's illnesses I noticed two things. One was that the second child tended to come down with it a couple of weeks after the first one. But another thing was that @ two weeks after whichever illness they'd had they'd become poorly again. As if their immune system was having some sort of delayed reaction. It's the first thing I thought of when I heard of this covid related illness in children. It's very worrying isn't it.

Maybee, the covid related serious illness in children isn’t just in the US. I read on BBC news site that there are now around 100 cases in the UK. Sadly one child has died as a result of it.

US doctors reported of its emergence and warned other countries to be on the alert for it.

I will attempt to post the BBC link

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/health-52648557

So, does that mean that others now have to be sent back to the workplace without adequate protection (s) being put in place? Or that some children have to go back to school putting themselves and their teachers at risk. What measures have actually been put in place to safeguard people? Children are coming down with a Covid related illness in America. It still isn’t known why more BAME people are dying than non BAME.

Some people have been working all through this lockdown period. They have had to face the dangers all the time.

Do we trust the figures from China, Russia , Iran?

Comparing countries’ alleged death toll is pointless as they all record deaths differently.

Some countries and their press ‘puff themselves up’ much more than happens here, it certainly doesn’t mean that all is fine and dandy in those countries, far from it!

Exactly, getting back to work is a challenge that must be faced for those of working age, not just in the UK but in all other countries too.

All governments that have imposed lockdowns are aware that they have to restart their economies or face economic disaster. In Britain which is densely populated in many regions that brings its own specific problems.

Public transport which many have to use for everyday commuting into and out of large cities is a major problem if Covid-19 is to remain contained.

Many employers this week are realising that protecting their employees will be difficult and in many working operations almost impossible

That will be the challenge that faces all in Britains working population, but it is a challenge that must be faced, for there is no other alternative.

Yes maybe we should.

But its not true that everyone else was nailing early lockdown themselves at that point and wondering why we werent doing the same, because if they had been, there would have been nobody arriving anyway!

Well, perhaps we should have closed down our borders at that point. I mean, we are an island and we had 'taken back control of our borders' hadn't we. And we still haven't done it yet.

But not holidaying...

Madrid had banned crowds at football matches.

Why aren’t you shocked that our government didn’t prevent it? You can’t say they didn’t see what was happening in other countries.

Im not Im just pointing out that these other countries hadnt banned it from their end either so can hardly now claim to be so shocked that WE allowed it. If their citizens had been locked down at the time how would they have departed?

you need to not be locked down at both ends for people to firstly depart and secondly arrive.

Now Im not saying we were right to allow the ARRIVE part BUT the rest of the world was hardly in full lockdown lookin on at us in horror if their own citizens were leaving home to go on holiday at the time...

Am I the only one to understand?

And was any left winger shocked that the Labour government in Wales allowed two Stereophonics concerts to go ahead in Cardiff a week before the Tory Government brought lockdown into force a week later?

And now those same left wingers moan about the high infection rates and deaths in SE Wales....blinkered or what?

Why aren’t you shocked that our government didn’t prevent it? You can’t say they didn’t see what was happening in other countries. Then again the PM couldn’t be bothered to go to the COBRA meetings, could he? Too busy dealing with his divorce, having holidays and getting engaged I suppose.

if theyre so shocked that our gov allowed their citizens to travel here why did they let their citizens depart from there ?

Given that a lot of us went into lockdown way before the government advised it [ditto the wearing of facemasks] maybe the people who are responsible for keeping the country safe should have heeded the warnings from Italy. How can it be 'hindsight' when they saw what was happening abroad but did nothing. To me it's irresponsible.