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I can quote from German, Spanish, Italian, Swedish, American and Dutch newspapers, all shocked at what is happening in the UK.

It is nothing to do with hindsight and everything to do with disbelief at the UKs governments incompetence.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

And can you honestly condone the UK government for allowing 3,000 people to fly in from a covid hotspot when our initial outbreak was probably caused by British people returning from Italian ski resorts. By the Saturday of that week New Zealand had already locked down the whole of the country.

Well, for a start they were Spanish and not Italian.

well why did they come? if apparently everyone in their country was looking at us aghast?

Why did we allow fans from Atletico Madrid come here to Liverpool for a match when matches in their own country were being held behind closed doors?

Maybee absolutely right. My friend in Italy couldn’t believe action was not being taken early on. She kept saying you are only a couple of weeks behind us. (This is someone with medical background )
I had to tell her I agreed but sadly has no say in the matter.

Italy has porblems with organised crime picking recruiting business people who werent supported by government in initial lockdown (and credit to them they are now trying to retrospectively rectify that)

Irish key workers STILL have no childcare provisions and have had to call in sick, take leave or get relatives who should be shielding to help. They went into lockdown with no plan as to how lockdown would work, and although in the last couple of weeks SOME keyworkers childcare has been sorted, many still have none.

We didnt get everything right. Nobody did. But where other countries press is telling them how much betterthey are at it than us, ours isnt really highlighting our comparative successes.

I dont think its a bad thing that our press CAN be so critical. But when people read it from abroad it gives a worse impression when compaired to their "look how great we are" press.

Even if Italy are reporting it in a different way I seem to remember the Italians begging us to see what was happening in their country and to take action. Which the government ignored. Had they done so those wonderful social provisions might not have been needed.

So what is your opinion on how Portugal are dealing with it? Compared to us.

Overseas media is full of "LOOK HOW MUCH BETTER WE'RE DOING THAN THE BRITS" (even if theyre not doing well at all.

Not seen many write ups on how much better we are doing than Belgium, or how the countries who are claiming to do so much better than us are reporting in a completely different way. Or how other countries lockdown made no extra social provisions and we actually did that better than most.

In any case, where would GN be if all that was reported were a few facts here and there.With a spread sheet to back it all up.

WWM2.....ah, come on ,you have opinions on every subject under the sun usually!

The Scottish accent is (mainly) great, in my view, I could listen to it for hours, so no, it isn’t La Sturgeon’s accent.....it’s her tone and her words! So....’stitch that Jimmy’ is quite appropriate in my opinion ( and I am allowed them)

No not at all, but I am impressed by your immense level of expertise on nearly every subject under the sun.

I feel very humble when reading it all.

notanan do keep your no nonsense posts up ?not universally liked because others have an agenda, ( quite often one which frowns upon anything English) either Scots Nat perhaps or very left wing.
Why would anyone believe what they read in the newspapers/media from other countries, when they hardly believe a word of anything said in the British press.Crazy.

I've heard many things said about The Sun but unpatriotic certainly isn't one of them.

Is there anything that you don’t claim to be expert on notanan?

Oh sorry, is yours the only opinion allowed?

I see that they have picked up on the lies told by Johnson today at PMQs. That isn’t bias it is fact.

What an embarrassment though.

Is there anything that you don’t claim to be expert on notanan?

What I have been reading is quite accurate as far as I can see and from quality news outlets.

Perhaps we can compare some of what we have read recently?

Due to Englands past a lot of overseas press prefer to report bad news from England than good

I too have (and always do) followed overseas media and it has been beyond biased. But it always is.

Friends from overseas thought we werent locked down at all when we were, and were getting reports that BJ is universally unpopular (its a mixed bag) and everyone here was on the tip of riots!

Couple that with the fact that BRITISH press is far less patriotic in its own reporting. Reading other countries main press you would think everyone was happy and proud of their great efforts while friends on the ground report otherwise.

I have been reading the opinions of the various news outlets throughout the world of the U.K. and in particular the Johnson government.

Without exception it is critical and makes for very sober reading.

Personally I think NS could easily have delivered her message to scotland without being critical of BJs message to England.

But she didnt
And she sounded like a toddler "I told him not to put it on MY telly"
was that necessary? did it clarify any of HER points? no!
Ensure the ads are adjusted regionally, yes! but it didnt have to be in her speech.

You can say we are doing things differently without saying theyre wrong and we're right.

meanwhile human rights are being erroded in scotland under her watch (proposed hate speech act).. but whatever, she knows all she has to do to stay popular is to be anti english

Bus/train seats were supposed to be sealed off so people couldn't sit next to someone else. Masks should be made mandatory on public transport and they should be made freely available for people that don't have one. In some countries when you visit a supermarket you have to stick to social distancing, hand sanitiser is squirted on your hand as you enter; people disinfect each trolley after use etc etc. This is being done in poorer countries I believe so I don't understand why it can't be done here. I think temperatures are taken also. My son tells me that the company he works for has people thoroughly cleaning toilets after each us [another way the virus is transmitted but rarely mentioned; enclosed space etc etc ]. There is far more that can be done in this country. And lockdown should not have been loosened until people were using apps and we had contact tracing in place. This government is using people as guinea pigs and they'll be using children and teachers too soon; unless the unions get involved which I think they are doing.

What FarNorth said (again).