Prince Andrew latest.

What I keep coming back to is not whether PA slept with her or not (if he did and it was in UK then he may have been sleazy but didn't break the law) but why is he refusing to have a face to face meeting as a witness with the FBI .

Does US law cover the U.K ? She has only named Maxwell’s house in England

Under USA law, she was underage and that is the issue.

Parsley I doubt it did, he didn’t pick her up in a red light district, she went to a nightclub with him, if he slept with her
it was at the house of a friend . I am not excusing him, big ego
and not the brightest coin in the mint.

Giuffre was no innocent and having read her life style , much
pity for the 14 year old girl but I do not believe she was groomed when she met Maxwell, she was 17 .

If he has committed crime he is doing what the majority do

Assuming that he did have sexual relations with Giuffre, did the possibility that he might be being set up for a future blackmail attempt never once cross Andrew’s mind? It should have.

Personally I reckon PA has behaved like a spoilt brat, and now is doing all he can to avoid the punishment. It would be better for him to just give up and take whatever comes!

Yes agree that's not nice thing to say.

But here Criminal Royal Arrogance

revoltingsubject.com/2020/01/27/criminal-royal-arrogance/

Says how the Royals get away with things.The Windsors are protected by state secrecy. Exempt from Freedom of Information requests. Their mistakes are glossed over by expensive PR agencies. Their misdemeanours are indulged. Written off as ‘gaffes’..

It’s significant that the law enforcement agency that are exasperated with him are not the deferential British cops.

What's stopping the British cops The Met Perhaps they will investigate?

Very nasty, to speak of the death of the queen -
‘When old Queeny kicks the golden bucket .

Such hatred in that link - a revolting link

A rather nasty if not dodgy website Grany.

revoltingsubject.com

Giuffre’s father worked at Trump’s nightclub, she worked there as a spa attendant and it was there she met Maxwell , she
was then 17 .

In my opinion it speaks volumes that Prince Andrew is not co-operating with the FBI
I do think he is not a very intelligent man after seeing the interview he did last year.
Dominic Cummins reminded me of Prince Andrew last year when he told us that he drove to test his eyesight.. No different than Prince Andrew saying he was at Pizza express and couldn't sweat.
Both men were arrogant beyond belief to think people would believe them

Donald Trump 'Ask Prince Andrew about it'

twitter.com/CaaaremeAimee/status/1289286670571847681?s=20

#PrinceAndrew #Epstein

I spoke to my former colleague who challenged Prince Andrew's pizza express Alibi and he is disappointed to hear the Met destroyed his Duty records. So it comes down to who you believe , A decorated Police Officer and former Royal Marine or Prince Andrew?
12:53 AM · Aug 2, 2020·Twitter Web App

Annie I'll take the Royal Marine thanks. We know Andrew is a liar, the FBI were given the original photograph in 2011 so Andrew's 'it's a photo of a photo of a photo' line was always an absurd thing to say, because we know the original had already been verified as genuine.

Epstein was a known blackmailer. He had thousands of pieces of evidence from the activities of the powerful and wealthy.

If it’s in the DM it must be true!.

I can’t understand why PA was offering a plea bargain on behalf of Epstein, maybe he was hoping Epstein would exonerate him of having any involvement in the illegal activities.

Highly questionable and damaging, very poor judgement.

Bluebellwould I wasn’t giving an excuse .

I don’t think Virginia Guiffre was that innocent. If you read her background she was probably quite streetwise but being very poor could have been tempted as a means of escape from poverty. Whatever that does not excuse those who took an underaged girl and abused her. She was not underage with PA in this country but she was over there. Okay maybe she is scheming to get some money but maybe she thinks she deserves it and maybe she does.

Anniebach, if an excuse works for teenagers, why won’t it work for every age? After all every adult was once a teenager.

Anniebach

Why is this girl an innocent yet the teenagers in the PC Harper
case evil ? Her parents approved , their parents quite possibly
approved

To ask that question shows a lack of understanding relating to grooming, power and trafficking.

No Bluebellwould I compared teenage boys and teenage girls .

Grany* she kept the photograph for 14 years to expose Andrew ? A very clever 17 year old wasn’t she , wonder why she didn’t
keep photographs of all the others she was forced to have sex
with.

When this was first discussed on this forum a letter was posted
in which she had written to Epstein explaining she was going to start a new life in Australia

Her father said in an interview ‘she is a very good actress’

Anniebach, so following on from your assertion that the thugs who killed the police officer could be excused because of their upbringing; it follows then that all criminals, rapists, torturers, war criminals and murderers can be excused their crimes because of their upbringing. Therefore, no one is responsible for their actions because they know no better. REALLY!

She most probably in the back of her mind determined to keep photo to eventually expose PA and get justice for herself the many others. Good this has been brought into the open.

Ms Guiffrie said ‘ I was horrified and ashamed ‘ after her encounter with Andrew in 2001,’you can never forget the face of someone who has heaved over you ‘ . Yet she kept the
photograph