I know I m going to get my head bitten off but here goes anyway

Oh I get it Bluebelle, I just don’t agree! And I’m fine with that, and I hope you get there too ? it’s a lot better than flouncing!

I love the exchange of views on here, things I hadn’t thought of et cetera I’ve learned a lot but on balance, I haven’t been converted!

The claim has come from PETA but there is no evidence that William was shooting grouse last weekend let alone Kate and George going along as well.

Unlike Harry and Meghan, I doubt the Cambridges will be looking for someone to sue and I'm sure whatever happened, George won't be psychologically damaged.

Bluebelle, maybe I don't quite get it? It makes no difference, at all, to the bird, whether it's shot for sport or to save crops. Country sports, crops defence, farming, nature - all barbaric to me.

I still feel more sorry for the farm animals (mere babies) killed for meat. At least the wild bird had some natural, free life. So many people protest - yet still munch on their meat!

I disagree completely with shooting as so called Sport ! Unless people are living in a wilderness, with no other option to survive. A very rare event, in this day and age! In this latter situation, I'm sure I would starve, as I could not bring myself to shoot or trap an animal, even for survival purposes. I wouldn't be able to "prepare" it either. I also wouldn't put myself in that position. I might be willing to forage - but as previously stated, I'm pretty sure that I would starve!

CBBL, I'm a vegan but, in a survival situation, my need to survive, and real hunger, would overcome any food preferences.

As a child I was taught to kill, pull and pluck chickens, skin rabbits etc. (no wonder I was veggie by the age of 12) - so I'm sure I'd manage a bird or small animal. There's no way I could manage to kill a large one, though!

TBH I would be surprised if William took George to watch a shoot knowing that it could provoke a Twitter storm especially as George will soon be returning to school.

What might have happened is Kate took George to join William and other members of the RF for the shoot lunch.

Of course none of us knows what happened because we weren't there and it's all assumption.

Ah, but with regard to Meghan, everyone seems to know all about everything (even though they aren't there, either)

I take that to be the point bluebelle was making.

I don’t think anything should be killed in the name of sport. So I totally agree with you.

Kartush, killing hares is immoral because wild animals should have the right to eat the small amount they take. The farmer's profits are not the top ethic.

Hares are not vermin. Vermin are classified as species that would decimate mankind. Hares don't come near that!

Callistemon

“I do hope you're all going to eat ethically sourced vegan food tonight. Otherwise perhaps you should examine your consciences.“

yes I am

Hetty, there is vast moral difference between free range, well fed animals at grass with shelter and water on the opne hand and animals fed antibiotics and hormones for cheap meat.

There is a huge moral difference between the local artisan slaughterer, and long distance transports to the large commercial abattoir.

yes I am

I assumed you would be, vegansrock.
I doubt everyone who is critical will be doing the same, though.

I will be eating a wild creature fished from the sea, so I have no grounds to criticise.

In the entire history of life on earth, royal families must be the most successful parasites to have ever evolved.

www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a33896388/prince-george-kate-middleton-prince-william-grouse-hunting-first-time/

Prince George has been immersed in a key royal family tradition — the annual grouse shoot that takes place at his great grandmother’s Scottish estate.

The young royal was taken by dad Prince William and mom Kate Middleton on the game bird shoot with other members of the extended royal family towards the end of their annual summer break at Queen Elizabeth's 52,000-acre estate at Balmoral Castle.

George, 7, watched the adults take part in the shoot on the 7,000-acre grouse moor at Corgarff — about 10 miles from the castle.

You know this to be fact do you, Grany?

I imagine it's true it's been in a few publications RF know for hunting fishing 'sports' I personally don't agree with shooting of birds or other game for fun

But for food presumably is ok.

I imagine it's true
I imagined leprechauns were true at one time.

It's RF tradition extended family taking part.

Queen has been filmed wringing birds necks
RF likes shooting things

This happened last weekend so surely if there was real evidence it would have been all over the media by now and not just an assumption from PETA.

No pap is going to sit on a photo showing George at a shoot.

It is unnecessary to shoot grouse for food. If you wanted to eat them they could be kept and despatched more efficiently. Few people want to eat them, and if there was money in it someone would be doing it. Kentucky fried grouse anyone? Yes they live a pampered life at the expense of the environment and wildlife. But they are terrorised at the end of their life for the fun of humans.

Prince George reportedly went !

Breeding any creature to be killed for someone's 'pleasure' is repugnant. Taking a 6 year old along to watch is horrible.

He's 7 and there's no evidence he was there.

At least the Grouse have a life, factory farmed animals don't.
If people had to kill their own meat to eat the animal population would benefit.
Far too easy to buy meat thoughtlessly and then while
eating it become hot and bothered over a Grouse shoot

Quite, halfpint1

Double standards (not everyone, I realise)

Chardy

Breeding any creature to be killed for someone's 'pleasure' is repugnant. Taking a 6 year old along to watch is horrible.

Grouse aren't bred for shooting