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I know I m going to get my head bitten off but here goes anyway

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BlueBelle Thu 03-Sept-20 16:51:48

I don’t think there’s another thread but if there is I apologise
There are so many (often quite nasty) threads about Harry and Meghan on here and now we have pictures of William and Kate shooting birds while they choose to have their son watching and there’s not a peep of disapproval
Well I think it’s abysmal for a child to watch any kind of killing of animals especially when it’s for pleasure and please don’t bother telling me they need culling ...,it’s a so called sport and I personally think it’s horrendous
now you can all have a go at me

merlotgran Fri 04-Sept-20 19:44:00

Thanks for the link to the article, Missfoodlove

Missfoodlove Fri 04-Sept-20 19:37:48

Please take a minute to read the link.
www.gwct.org.uk/policy/briefings/driven-grouse-shooting/conservation-on-grouse-moors/

Missfoodlove Fri 04-Sept-20 19:35:50

Townies cannot just turn up and shoot.
The restrictions are so tight!
Even years of pheasant shooting will not qualify you to shoot on a grouse moor.
If the shoot captain is unsure you will always shoot under supervision only.
The presence of hen harriers, black grouse and more are one of the reasons for this.
The game keepers are working hard to protect hen harriers because even though they will kill grouse they will also kill their many predators.
The BASC is all about conservation.
I will stress again grouse cannot be bred, gamekeepers will do all they can to encourage them and to provide the right habitat through heather burning etc. They are never captive unlike Pheasant.

QuickFire9 Fri 04-Sept-20 19:17:24

I’m not going to bite anyone’s head off but George will be shooting grouse by the time he’s 10. Also if someone is prepared to eat meat they should see that something has to die for them to do so. If you’re a vegetarian or a vegan that’s different. All Royals shoot. As long as they eat it. It should never be done for fun.

vegansrock Fri 04-Sept-20 18:43:09

I’m not sure the children in Our Yorkshire Farm actually slit the animals throats but it wouldn’t surprise me.

vegansrock Fri 04-Sept-20 18:42:09

Desensitising children to animal cruelty is easily done. Doesn’t mean it’s good,

Oopsminty Fri 04-Sept-20 18:30:10

parkersheen

Children are usually mortified if they see an animal die and surely they are brought up to love their pets and all other living things. So I wonder how William & Kate justify shooting live defenceless creatures to their children?

Rural children aren't mortified.

Have you watched Our Yorkshire Farm?

The children who grow up on farms are well aware of what happens to animals

Town children tend to believe that chicken miraculously appears in a nugget.

When I lived on a smallholding in the Canaries, 5 year olds were wringing chicken's neck for our evening meal

I own up to feeling slightly horrified.

MissAdventure Fri 04-Sept-20 18:25:53

It doesn't really matter what any of our thoughts are, though.

The royals will do as they please, exactly as they always have.

parkersheen Fri 04-Sept-20 18:25:47

Children are usually mortified if they see an animal die and surely they are brought up to love their pets and all other living things. So I wonder how William & Kate justify shooting live defenceless creatures to their children?

vegansrock Fri 04-Sept-20 18:04:05

Grouse are protected for shooting - by eliminating wildlife on grouse moors.

Oopsminty Fri 04-Sept-20 17:59:15

Chardy

Breeding any creature to be killed for someone's 'pleasure' is repugnant. Taking a 6 year old along to watch is horrible.

Grouse aren't bred for shooting

Callistemon Fri 04-Sept-20 17:57:21

Quite, halfpint1

Double standards (not everyone, I realise)

halfpint1 Fri 04-Sept-20 17:54:43

At least the Grouse have a life, factory farmed animals don't.
If people had to kill their own meat to eat the animal population would benefit.
Far too easy to buy meat thoughtlessly and then while
eating it become hot and bothered over a Grouse shoot

merlotgran Fri 04-Sept-20 17:51:37

He's 7 and there's no evidence he was there.

Chardy Fri 04-Sept-20 17:48:34

Breeding any creature to be killed for someone's 'pleasure' is repugnant. Taking a 6 year old along to watch is horrible.

Anniebach Fri 04-Sept-20 17:47:31

Prince George reportedly went !

vegansrock Fri 04-Sept-20 17:46:28

It is unnecessary to shoot grouse for food. If you wanted to eat them they could be kept and despatched more efficiently. Few people want to eat them, and if there was money in it someone would be doing it. Kentucky fried grouse anyone? Yes they live a pampered life at the expense of the environment and wildlife. But they are terrorised at the end of their life for the fun of humans.

merlotgran Fri 04-Sept-20 17:45:28

This happened last weekend so surely if there was real evidence it would have been all over the media by now and not just an assumption from PETA.

No pap is going to sit on a photo showing George at a shoot.

Grany Fri 04-Sept-20 17:45:04

It's RF tradition extended family taking part.

Queen has been filmed wringing birds necks
RF likes shooting things

Callistemon Fri 04-Sept-20 17:22:52

But for food presumably is ok.

I imagine it's true
I imagined leprechauns were true at one time.

Grany Fri 04-Sept-20 17:19:20

I imagine it's true it's been in a few publications RF know for hunting fishing 'sports' I personally don't agree with shooting of birds or other game for fun

merlotgran Fri 04-Sept-20 17:15:31

You know this to be fact do you, Grany?

Grany Fri 04-Sept-20 17:10:32

In the entire history of life on earth, royal families must be the most successful parasites to have ever evolved.

www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a33896388/prince-george-kate-middleton-prince-william-grouse-hunting-first-time/

Prince George has been immersed in a key royal family tradition — the annual grouse shoot that takes place at his great grandmother’s Scottish estate.

The young royal was taken by dad Prince William and mom Kate Middleton on the game bird shoot with other members of the extended royal family towards the end of their annual summer break at Queen Elizabeth's 52,000-acre estate at Balmoral Castle.

George, 7, watched the adults take part in the shoot on the 7,000-acre grouse moor at Corgarff — about 10 miles from the castle.

Callistemon Fri 04-Sept-20 16:45:51

yes I am

I assumed you would be, vegansrock.
I doubt everyone who is critical will be doing the same, though.

I will be eating a wild creature fished from the sea, so I have no grounds to criticise.

Alexa Fri 04-Sept-20 16:38:57

Hetty, there is vast moral difference between free range, well fed animals at grass with shelter and water on the opne hand and animals fed antibiotics and hormones for cheap meat.

There is a huge moral difference between the local artisan slaughterer, and long distance transports to the large commercial abattoir.