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Whole school bubbles being made to self-isolate?

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growstuff Wed 16-Sept-20 09:05:50

Ellianne

^So if all of year 3 say have to stay home ...how about their siblings in year 6?^
No because in all likelihood the year 3 kid hasn't got it anyway, so pointless keeping the sibling home.
Obviously if the year 3 kid were the sufferer or carrier then that would be a different matter.

But you wouldn't know, unless the child could be tested, which can't be done now. Your suggestion is the very reason the infection spreads. Nobody should be playing Russian roulette with people's health.

growstuff Wed 16-Sept-20 09:03:16

Ellianne

Lucca

Surely if they had rotas this would mean fewer students needing to isolate ?

But where would they get enough teachers from?

The staff would teach the pupils who are in school and the remaining pupils would do prepared work at home. This is what's happening anyway when whole classes or bubbles are sent home, but at least it could be planned and families would know when the pupils would be at home.

It wouldn't be perfect, but it would be manageable and minimise the risk of infection and the chaos some schools and families are now facing.

As FannyCornforth has written, the current situation was predictable and avoidable.

Ellianne Wed 16-Sept-20 08:58:51

So if all of year 3 say have to stay home ...how about their siblings in year 6?
No because in all likelihood the year 3 kid hasn't got it anyway, so pointless keeping the sibling home.
Obviously if the year 3 kid were the sufferer or carrier then that would be a different matter.

Susan56 Wed 16-Sept-20 08:53:56

Our great nephew has to isolate.Younger brother,same school still attending school.Mum can go to work,shopping etc?‍♀️

Lucca Wed 16-Sept-20 08:46:08

So if all of year 3 say have to stay home ...how about their siblings in year 6? Am now depressed....
I feel I should go on the religion thread and get people to pray for a vaccine.

Ellianne Wed 16-Sept-20 08:46:01

Lucca

Surely if they had rotas this would mean fewer students needing to isolate ?

But where would they get enough teachers from?

CassieJ Wed 16-Sept-20 08:39:35

This happened at a secondary school local to me. Whole school closed for two days for deep clean. Then the "year bubble" of 100 pupils had to self isolate for two weeks.

FannyCornforth Wed 16-Sept-20 08:27:57

Lucca, yes, and crucially it would allow social distancing.
Fewer teachers would be affected too.
The kids would also get a better education as the class sizes would be smaller.
Teachers could have provided online learning for those pupils at home and the ones isolating. Vulnerable pupils and teachers could study and work from home.
The government said no to all of this.

Lucca Wed 16-Sept-20 08:23:45

Surely if they had rotas this would mean fewer students needing to isolate ?

Riverwalk Wed 16-Sept-20 08:23:17

One of the mothers interviewed had four children - two now back at home, and two still at school!

Lucca Wed 16-Sept-20 08:22:57

I predict a really disrupted year ahead if this is the law

Riverwalk Wed 16-Sept-20 08:20:50

Yes, guidelines, but is it actual law - are they absolutely required to do it?

Susan56 Wed 16-Sept-20 08:19:37

Our great nephew is 17.He had three days back at school and is now having to isolate for 14 days as someone in his year has tested positive for Covid.The school has already suggested that a third year in sixth form may be an option as so much work has been missed.

FannyCornforth Wed 16-Sept-20 08:18:47

It was never safe to open schools as they did. The Government lied and the media was full of propaganda.
All those photos of teachers and kids in PPE, temperatures being taken, classrooms half empty etc.
None of that is possible. There is no social distancing.
The Union were demonised by the Government, but they didn't bite
The Unions wanted part time rotas and blended learning.
The Government wanted everyone back with no changes allowed. They had months to sort it out.
All of this is sadly innevitable.

Lucca Wed 16-Sept-20 08:17:26

I’m assuming this is primary ? In secondary it could be about 200! I don’t know what the solution is honestly but I’m assuming these are government guidelines ?

Harris27 Wed 16-Sept-20 08:14:34

Well I work in a nursery and If we have anyone with positive testing we will probably have to shut that room for 14 days. How we are supposed to run businesses in this present day is unbelievable.

Riverwalk Wed 16-Sept-20 08:09:43

I've just heard on the Today programme two mothers, separate schools, reporting how their children are now self-isolating for the next two weeks as two children in their respective bubbles have tested positive for Covid. Whole year group bubbles can be around 90 children.

Surely this can't be the right thing to do? I understand though that this is the rule.

How are children to get an education if they can be sent home at any time - it could happen continuously, they go back and then someone else tests positive.

I'm so flabbergasted can't think of anything else to say, but something must be done!