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farview Tue 29-Sept-20 22:07:05

OMG...wether you love him or loathe him...he looks so very poorly.....not being nasty...but feel that he absolutely shouldn't be making decisions

Furret Wed 30-Sept-20 15:53:03

Sarnia

Whether you are a Boris fan or not, if he goes, who would replace him? The alternatives are the stuff of nightmares.

No they’re not! I’m not a Jeremy Hunt fan, but he would have coped far better. Theresa May too. Sajid Javid, resigned on a principle when Cummings tried to pressure him. He wouldn’t have let Dominic get away with everything. Amber Rudd and Philip Hammond were others ousted.

Boris chose this load of numpties for their lack of experience deliberately - with the exception of Gove. I’m still wondering what Gove knows about Boris that ensured he wasn’t debunked to the back benches.

Jaxjacky Wed 30-Sept-20 16:12:55

Ah well, suggest you don’t watch broadcast at 5pm or BP levels will rise, I’ll catch up the salient points online later.

Kamiso Wed 30-Sept-20 16:14:45

suziewoozie

We’re never going to know the truth about how ill he was and frankly I don’t care. I care about the thousands who’ve died, been very ill, whose lives are being ruined in a zillion different ways because he’s completely useless, because he spent February sorting out his private life, appointed a Cabinet of nodding donkeys and is ruled by Cummings ( fir god knows what reason) He’s been sacked/run away from/ failed at every single job he’s ever had and failed and betrayed wives/ mistresses/ children/ friends - whatever makes his fans think he cares about them or the country?

So full of venom! Good reason why people of your persuasion will hopefully be out of the running for years to come.

My son’s friend worked on the unit and actually saw him and the security unit and heard the discussions on what to do if he died.

I won’t hold my breath waiting for an apology. Too bigoted for words.

Sparklefizz Wed 30-Sept-20 16:16:40

Whether you agree with his politics or not, he is a partner, father, brother, son and a man who has been through a bad time.

Lucca Wed 30-Sept-20 16:21:02

I really think the stuff about £150k not being enough is nonsense given he had years of earning more than twice that. So he should have a few savings.....

Sparklefizz Wed 30-Sept-20 16:45:58

Lucca

I really think the stuff about £150k not being enough is nonsense given he had years of earning more than twice that. So he should have a few savings.....

It was fake news.

MayBee70 Wed 30-Sept-20 16:57:07

Sparklefizz

Whether you agree with his politics or not, he is a partner, father, brother, son and a man who has been through a bad time.

Think his wife was ‘going through a bad time’ when he cheated on her so not much sympathy from me I’m afraid.

suziewoozie Wed 30-Sept-20 17:50:30

Kamiso I couldn’t care less about hearsay and gossip or the truth about how near death he was ( which we’ll never get) People have died and are suffering in myriad ways because of his failures before he was ill - You don’t seem to want to acknowledge that at all. Being ill is absolutely no excuse for forgiving him for anything.

Sparkle I see no evidence at all that he knows what being a father or partner actually means. Being a brother seems to mean giving out a peerage.

Riverwalk Wed 30-Sept-20 18:29:34

Then of course there is the matter of his big drop in income

Like every PM before him, and every MP, he knew what the salary was beforehand.

And as at every General Election there is never any shortage of candidates.

They will fill their boots, eventually.

vegansrock Wed 30-Sept-20 18:53:10

sparklefizz you missed out husband, lover, partner, fiancé, boyfriend......

suziewoozie Wed 30-Sept-20 19:36:14

..adulterer, attempter of trying to hide existence of one child, abortion payer ... nice.

NotTooOld Wed 30-Sept-20 21:52:44

No, not Mrs May, although she does dress much better than he does!

Davidhs Thu 01-Oct-20 07:27:24

I’m probably the harshest critic of BJ but seeing the pathetic figure bumbling on the TV broadcast last night even I felt sympathy.
He has lost it, wether it is Covid or stress, he has lost whatever little command he had.

suziewoozie Thu 01-Oct-20 07:43:32

David
‘I’m probably the harshest critic of BJ but’

Not while I’m around ?

Whitewavemark2 Thu 01-Oct-20 07:54:32

They won’t get rid of him until after brexit as most of the rebels - that didn’t- are also brexiters and they want brexit above anything else.

But boy his ass won’t touch the water early next year and he will be gone.

What would be brilliant is if Gove as Cummings favourite doesn’t get the leadership, which means that Cummings would be gone as well, and this dreadful period will be over.

Iam64 Thu 01-Oct-20 07:59:16

Johnson’s work history before he became PM confirmed he had no staying power, wanted the glory without the hard work that goes with it. His personal life confirms his sense of entitlement and lack of commitment or integrity.

His absence in February is said (by reliable sources) to have been in an attempt to resolve issues in his personal life.

I believe he was seriously ill with covid. I suspect he is still suffering the long term effects. He needed to convalesce but given Brexit and covid, he returned to work. I suspect he’s physically, mentally exhausted. I saw the image of Carrie on her own with the baby as reminiscent of the image of Diana at the Taj. A message in other words.

I’ve no regard for Johnson, no respect for him. I wonder what Cummings holds over him. I suspect Johnson and Gove know where each other’s bodies are buried.

Government of national unity anyone. Johnson takes a step back to “recuperate” But who steps forward as temp leader.

suziewoozie Thu 01-Oct-20 10:03:49

Iam I agree with most of what you’ve posted but I don’t think Johnson’s state of health ( whatever it is) has made any difference. He would always have made a pig’s ear of Covid given the power and influence of Cummings and the woeful Cabinet ( selected when he was in full health)

Davidhs Thu 01-Oct-20 16:14:43

Government of National Unity, LOL, you are joking of course, the Tories are never going to loose their grip on power, although they might relax their hard line in the New Year when BJ has gone, that’s the best we can hope for.

BJ was chosen as leader because he could sway voters to back Brexit, no other reason. A puppet with Cummings pulling the strings, what a disaster.

farview Thu 01-Oct-20 16:26:47

Wonder just what gives Cummings so much power...what does he know?

Iam64 Thu 01-Oct-20 16:35:52

Good question farview. The idea of an unelected special advisor breaching rules he helped draft and being given his own press conference in the garden at number ten is stunning, the arrogance of the man, keeping the press waiting half an hour before making clear he didn’t give a fig about public disapproval. The term “special” seems to have confirmed his sense of entitlement.

12Michael Thu 01-Oct-20 16:42:53

I read he was getting help from a fitness coach ,apart from his running and occasional bike rides.
Maybe under par due to trying to crash diet , if he has other symptoms such as diabetes caused through heavy drinking and high sugar levels.
He is a shadow of his former self
Mick

Iam64 Thu 01-Oct-20 17:03:20

Well put Mick

GillT57 Thu 01-Oct-20 19:58:52

Even if he was in full health, Johnson would still be lazy, and lacking in commitment to the job which he so desperately wanted but doesn't seem to want to commit himself to. Still what did people expect? We were all warned by his previous employers that he was idle and untrustworthy, and that is without thinking about his moral behaviour. I have said it before, but a man who is able to lie to his employer, his wife(s), his mistress (es), his children, will find lying to the electorate very easy. There is definitely some sort of hold being exerted by the demonic Cummings, probably something involving his time at The Spectator which seems to be where they all have a common history. Cummings' wife works there.

Fennel Thu 01-Oct-20 20:46:50

Gill -I agree.
Same suspicions lingering at the back of my mind for some time.
But even so, it couldn't be much worse than the reality now.

lemongrove Thu 01-Oct-20 20:56:22

I don’t agree Gill ....I think Cummings ( who is closer to Gove than Johnson) just had the reputation for being ruthless and getting the job done, which is why he was appointed.
He isn’t ‘demonic’ ( no doubt he would be flattered to hear he was thought of as supernatural) and I doubt he has any hold over Johnson at all.