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This "quote" thing. ?

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phoenix Sat 03-Oct-20 21:39:09

Hello all, good wishes to you.

I've noticed that there are more uses of the "quote" facility.

Yes, it's very useful when wanting to refer back to a specific post, but as someone posted (so sorry, but I can't remember who) "you wouldn't repeat someone's comment/remark before responding to it in conversation" (or something like that) so why are so many people doing it? confused

ginny Sun 04-Oct-20 08:18:59

Thanks Merlot, I’ve found the quote thing now.

LullyDully Sun 04-Oct-20 08:31:17

Ah, now I know how it's happening there will be no stopping me.......maybe NOT.

sodapop Sun 04-Oct-20 09:10:14

The quote facility is useful when the post referred to is a few pages back. However it seems to be used a lot by some with only a short comment of their own at the end, I agree with Phoenix about that. I don't want to keep reading the same thing over again especially when another poster then 're quotes the quote.

Marydoll Sun 04-Oct-20 09:13:48

Sodapop, thank you. You have explained it far better than I did about the requoting! grin

Oopsminty Sun 04-Oct-20 09:14:28

But you don't have to read the quote

Just scroll on down

Lollin Sun 04-Oct-20 09:20:06

I always try to avoid using the quote facility as i know it really upsets some people. However it can mean I end up not joining in as I do not have enough time to refer back to what someone has said or my fingers stumble typing the poster name in bold. To me it can be like pushing the heavy side door instead of alking through the revolving door. Now that's sparked a memory (Oh how I loved those old wooden framed revolving doors!)

Lollin Sun 04-Oct-20 09:22:36

Also, I can't seem to get to but in bold or italics more than one word at a time , it really does not seem to work on my tablet so the idea of being able to use the quote facility was wonderful but I don't or have v v rarely.

Oopsminty Sun 04-Oct-20 09:23:10

Lollin

I always try to avoid using the quote facility as i know it really upsets some people. However it can mean I end up not joining in as I do not have enough time to refer back to what someone has said or my fingers stumble typing the poster name in bold. To me it can be like pushing the heavy side door instead of alking through the revolving door. Now that's sparked a memory (Oh how I loved those old wooden framed revolving doors!)

You use the quote button, Lollin

It's there for many reasons and if you feel unable to join in, because you might upset people, well that's awful.

I loved the old revolving doors as well smile

Marydoll Sun 04-Oct-20 09:37:53

Lollin, it does work on a tablet. I start at the end of the words /phrase I want to quote, drag my finger along to the beginning of the phrase and then a menu pops up, with copy etc. Choose copy, go to where you want to insert the quote and press hard and the menu with paste appears. It takes seconds.

Ellianne Sun 04-Oct-20 09:37:59

I think the quote thing works well for short comments. It is not at all effective for longer posts. Far more sensible to highlight the bit you agree/disagree with and then use the italics ^ ........ ^
There is one particular poster who quotes my entire thread everytime as being snobby, patronising, incorrect, blah, blah just because she can. That loses all meaning .

MamaCaz Sun 04-Oct-20 09:38:17

I like the quote option for the reasons already given by other posters.

Blame Gransnet for the overly-long quotes. Many other sites have a version that allows you to edit the quote, so you can crop it down to just the parts that you are commenting on.
Gransnet has for some reason opted to give us the most basic, all-or-nothing version!

MamaCaz Sun 04-Oct-20 09:42:50

Cutting and pasting several separate sentences from posts that are on other pages, plus the poster's name, then adding the necessary formatting, is very time-consuming at best.
Then there's the high risk of losing your own half-written reply as you go back to try to C&P another sentence or double-check something that has been said - well, that's what often happens to me, anyway, but maybe I am just too careless.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 04-Oct-20 10:12:20

I am guilty of using the quote facility, I am using my iPhone at the moment and it doesn’t like cut and paste.

Marydoll Sun 04-Oct-20 10:20:50

It's not the quote facility that is the problem. It's the multiple and often unnecessary quotes within a reply, which take up half the page which irritate me.
No-one is asking anyone not to use it, if it puts them off posting, but please just use it wisely.

That's my opinion, I'm not asking anyone to agree, just stating how I feel.
There are more important things to worry about at present.

Callistemon Sun 04-Oct-20 10:32:35

you wouldn't repeat someone's comment/remark before responding to it in conversation

I was thinking about this (nothing better to do!) and my thoughts were:

If you were in a group of people having a fast-moving conversation and the conversation had moved off-track slightly, you might well say "*phoenix*, getting back to your point about the quote facility - you said .........." to set the parameters for your reply.

Well, I might, by which time everyone else is talking about something else entirely or start to ???

Callistemon Sun 04-Oct-20 10:36:41

I typed that out before I rtt, btw, so I may be repeating what someone else has said.
But it had to be done before I forgot what I had to say.

Retires gracefully to the norty step to drink my brew

Rufus2 Sun 04-Oct-20 11:11:56

Then there's the high risk of losing your own half-written reply as you go back to C&P another sentence
Mama Caz Very annoying when your "work of art" has gone.

My work-around is to compose serious messages in "Word" then "Save' if I have to head off to check out a particular fact. So if things go wrong you've still got the original!
Then highlight, hit CTRL C (copy), then CTRL V (paste) into the GN message box. It's not tedious and beats having to remember what you said in your first go and re-typing.

Hope I'm not "teaching Grandma how to suck eggs!" ? grin
Good Health.

JackyB Sun 04-Oct-20 11:22:02

I find the non sequiturs and incomprehensible posts which arise from people replying to comments way back up the thread more annoying than the use of the "quote" function.

However, I wish people would leave more space after a quote. I can't tell where the quote ends and the bit added by the current poster starts.

Callistemon Sun 04-Oct-20 11:26:13

JackyB

I find the non sequiturs and incomprehensible posts which arise from people replying to comments way back up the thread more annoying than the use of the "quote" function.

However, I wish people would leave more space after a quote. I can't tell where the quote ends and the bit added by the current poster starts.

I think the spacing is automatic, JackyB

Testing by putting in several spaces between your quote box and my post.


And again.

JackyB Sun 04-Oct-20 12:43:55

Yes - it's a normal paragraph space. Am I the only one with this problem?

MamaCaz Sun 04-Oct-20 13:00:05

Rufus

Good advice, and I sometimes do what you mention for 'serious' conversations elsewhere (such as LiveChat with a utility company), but here on Gransnet, I generally start out naively imagining that my post will only be short. You'd think I'd know by now that I rarely manage to do short!

Occasionally, I do keep highlighting and saving what I have written every so often, just in case, but more often than not, it doesn't cross my mind until it's too late and I've lost it all again. Plus, by doing that, I increase the risk of hitting the wrong button again and losing it that way
Careless, or what! blush

Namsnanny Sun 04-Oct-20 13:01:33

welbeck 00.24
I agree. smile

SpringyChicken Sun 04-Oct-20 13:15:41

It's a pity this thread was ever started. We ALL need to be tolerant of other people's ways of doing things.

seacliff Sun 04-Oct-20 13:16:03

If there is loads of copied text I just leave the thread, it puts me right off. You have to trawl through all that repeated text, and then maybe there is a sentence or two added at the bottom.

So much easier to just copy and paste one relevant sentence and make it italic.

Ellianne Sun 04-Oct-20 13:36:01

I agree seacliff. My point was that in general conversation we probably let 70% of what is said slide into insignificance. We respond to a small segment.
What I object to is someone's entire quote being branded stupid, just because of who they are, when there might be a good point or two within it. That's where the relevant italics make more sense.