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Harry laying a wreath.

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Namsnanny Mon 09-Nov-20 10:57:47

I read he asked for a representative to lay a wreath at the Cenotaph, but courtiers refused, as he is no longer a representative of the RF.
It was said the Queen wasn't informed.

I do feel sorry for him. Even though he must have given the choice he made considerable thought beforehand.

Does anyone know if perhaps he made a symbolic 'wreath laying' on line?

Obviously thats about all he could do given Coronavirus and his new life!

eazybee Tue 10-Nov-20 09:51:11

People will leave them alone as they become increasingly irrelevant, if they leave us alone.
How did the account of Harry wishing to have a wreath laid find its way into the British press, followed by the commissioned photographs under discussion here?

Was it leaked or was it released via their press agency?
They are able to protect the privacy of their child so why not their own?

merlotgran Tue 10-Nov-20 09:48:57

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8931121/JAN-MOIR-Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-grave-mistake.html

Their PR team is doing them no favours.

merlotgran Tue 10-Nov-20 09:44:55

biba70

Just leave them alone.

They clearly don't want to be left alone. How will they earn a living?

biba70 Tue 10-Nov-20 09:42:00

Just leave them alone.

Ellianne Tue 10-Nov-20 09:39:31

Iam64 in my opinion you are right, H&M have to learn a living and they have chosen to do that as celebrities, whatever that word means.
You are right, these threads do become tedious.
But you are wrong that they are particularly unpleasant. They only become so when other posters start on the attack.
This thread started very inocuously asking whether Harry laid a wreath somewhere else because he was denied the privilege at the Cenotaph .
A few photos were found showing him and Meghan at the LA cemetery. A link to an article about the photographer was offered. Neither of these posters were being unpleasant, in fact both these posters were upset to have caused any offence.
Upon learning that the couple had actually hired this celebrity (see his list) photographer and upon hearing that H & M had actually posed for the shots, posters started to dissect the photos for their sincerity. To my mind it was not surprising that comments were made about their public display of affection and her choice of heels.
I object to the accusations that I was sugar coating my comments to encite the piling on of unpleasantness. I object to three angel emojis being sarcastically used to describe me. I object to being called hypocritical. All those things are very unpleasant.
What saddens me most, however, that a thread which asked many interesting questions, and yes, had several critical comments about the couples' behaviour, (and her attire), last night degenerated into an unkind exercise hurling abuse about peoples' right to their opinions.

Iam64 Tue 10-Nov-20 09:21:11

lemon - ok, we can disagree about this and continue to live our lives [smile}
I have a children the same age as Harry and William. I've always been hugely relieved that mine had a less dramatic upbringing. That when they were teenagers and off to university, they weren't being filmed doing daft things. Not that I'm aware of any seriously daft behaviour - they were easy kids to bring up. I'm not convinced they would have been as much fun or as easy to live with if they'd experienced a quarter of what those two young men did in their formative years.

lemongrove Tue 10-Nov-20 09:16:37

?Iam .....no, they are not like the Kardashians but have
Become a commodity like them now.Living where they do and living a celebrity lifestyle, more or less cutting off ties to the UK and any idea of the duties of a royal life.
If that’s the life they want, then so be it, but what does annoy people is their quest to be photographed doing good works
And putting out sanctimonious messages.

Anniebach Tue 10-Nov-20 09:09:59

They have a living to earn so pose for photographs at war
graves and this is acceptable?

Iam64 Tue 10-Nov-20 09:04:10

lemongrove, I try to avoid H&M threads because I find them both tedious and extremely unpleasant. Failure is my middle name of course. No they are nothing like the Kardashians. I'm not a celeb expert but even I can find no comparison between H&M and that trashy lot (see I can be unpleasant ....)

lemongrove Tue 10-Nov-20 09:01:03

Yes, sadly they have just become ‘celebs’ along with the Kardashians and others.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 10-Nov-20 08:51:42

Iam64

I may have this wrong of course but my understanding is that H and M did not withdraw from public life. They withdrew from the RF. They have a living to earn and are likely to do that by using their status as well known people.

You are right.

Iam64 Tue 10-Nov-20 08:49:13

I may have this wrong of course but my understanding is that H and M did not withdraw from public life. They withdrew from the RF. They have a living to earn and are likely to do that by using their status as well known people.

M0nica Tue 10-Nov-20 07:54:14

Prince Harry and his wife have chosen to withdraw from public life. Why doesn't everyone just respect their request and ignore them. Isn't that what they want?

Summerlove Tue 10-Nov-20 00:24:55

merlotgran

Where has anybody dismissed Harry's work with the Invictus Games as publicity seeking?

When I asked upthread if there were any remembrance services/parades on the same day I was wondering why they didn't just attend a local one rather than set up a photo opportunity.

I find attention seeking behaviour distasteful on this occasion.

America doesn’t do Remembering Sunday.

They do Memorial Day in May. Maybe a thought on 11 november.

Canada does their service on 11 November regardless of the day of the week.

If Harry had done nothing he would have been called out for that too. He was trying to observe his own customs here. For him, that’s photos laying a wreath, just as his family does

Ellianne Tue 10-Nov-20 00:06:19

Just a few clouds apparently.

Ellianne Mon 09-Nov-20 23:45:37

Crikey Nanawind where did you get that from?

There's no way I'm going to claim any knowledge of meteorology here, but it seems to me, on checking reports, that it was pretty sunny with a few clouds.
Using the airport's data usually gives an accurate report at the time.

Nanawind Mon 09-Nov-20 23:22:31

Were the photos taken yesterday as it shows that it was sunny but the weather in Los Angeles was overcast.
Also I'm sure they need a licence to take photos in that cemetery. Perhaps someone in America could check the records.

Lexisgranny Mon 09-Nov-20 22:46:29

Final word back Lucca, not at all, but surely whatever the subject, one cannot condemn others for exercising their right to express a critical opinion whilst exercising ones own right to do the same thing.

Ellianne Mon 09-Nov-20 22:46:26

And you are too dishonest to admit that they are damned if they do and damned if they don’t.
And you suziewoozue omitted to quote my reply at 13.38 to Lucca where I said I really didn't know what they should have done. I have tried my best to show sympathy for Harry on this occasion as, like others have expressed, he must be feeling very sad.

merlotgran Mon 09-Nov-20 22:40:59

I get it, sw. The minute anybody posts about Harry and Meghan, in you swoop.

Unless anybody breaks GN guidelines you can't shut people up just because you disagree.

suziewoozie Mon 09-Nov-20 22:36:51

Ellianne

I've been back over this thread and the only unpleasant words I can find are those used by posters who don't like others criticising Harry and Meghan.
"bashing" "slamming" "digging" are all rather exaggerated words to describe people's observations and opinions on Harry and Meghan's actions.

You just don’t get it do you? The issue is using Remembrance for yet another hate fest. And then going all ?? about ‘observations and opinions which were the usual mixture of ill informed speculation and fantasy and bile. And you are too dishonest to admit that they are damned if they do and damned if they don’t. NB you = the general you who’ve indulged yourselves in this.

Lucca Mon 09-Nov-20 22:35:48

One final word to lexisgranny I take it you mean the GN rule is Dont criticise the government but do criticise Meghan and Harry?

Ellianne Mon 09-Nov-20 22:34:21

I thought that too Lexisgranny.

Lucca Mon 09-Nov-20 22:33:53

Ellianne come on. You’re nitpicking. We are not talking about “words”. It’s the comments and the claims to know what the couple are thinking etc. Anyway I am clearly in a tiny minority so I’ll leave the thread to those who enjoy it.

Ellianne Mon 09-Nov-20 22:32:52

Add to that "shameful" "pathetic" "obsessed" and I'm sure there is probably more.